#i am 26 and found this series when i was 12 in 2010

[v3joker]

that's still 20 years and now i feel old

[killjoy-prince]

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wheres that post that's like 'don't put a number in your story unless absolute necessary bc nothing makes a reader fixate more than when there's a number in a story' bc i'm losing it over how medical malpractice m.d. handles the age of the main character

like first you have an episode set in December where one of the main character's employees found out his birthday was coming up even though he didn't want anyone knowing that. Ok so his birth month is December. Cool!

Then the next season, it's stated he was born on June 11th, 1959. Ok thats a whole half year difference but okay that fine since thats the same bday as the actor playing him. So in 2007 he should be 48 right? Nope, bc his best friend says he's 45 which would make his birth year 1962.

Ok, maybe his best friend that he's known for over a decade got his age wrong. It happens. I forget how old I am sometimes. Hell in that episode where his bday was in December, the best friend is like "wait your birthday is around right now right?" so him not being on top of birthdays is a plausible thing you can draw from this (i dont buy it but its fine)

Then in season 7, his birthday changed to May 15, 1959. I'm not quite sure why they moved it back a month but okay sure! May, it is!!!!

BUT THEN

IN THE SERIES FINALE

THEY CHANGED THE YEAR

TO 1958!!!!

And this is just the main character. Don't get me started with the timeline of stuff that happens pre series bc the best friend gets back together with his first wife in 2010 and it's stated in Season 6 Episode 19 "Open and Shut" they divorced 10 years ago ("I wish we had this fight ten years ago"). Which can't be the case bc the main character and the best friend met when the best friend just finished med school and was served papers by the first wife. Which had to be around 1992 if I'm to believe the friend is 46 in 2012 and he finished med school at 26. (then again seeing how this show treats numbers it could be wrong) IDK maybe there's a chance the writers didn't realize it was 2010? Like I sometimes think the 80s was 20 years ago, not 40.

OH WAIT, reading the transcript from Season 6 Episode 17 "Lockdown", they were married from 1990-91. So main character and best friend had to have met in 1991. But then in the next episode (Knight Fall), the best friend says "...things (with the first wife) seem to be going great. But then they seemed to be going great 12 years ago." MY GUY!!! IT'S 2010!!! TWELVE YEARS AGO WAS 1998!!!!!!! YOU WERE ALREADY WORKING AT YOUR CURRENT WORKPLACE WITH YOUR BESTEST FRIEND FOREVEREST!!!!!!

I've wanted to see a timeline of all the events that happened in this show both pre series and in series but that's kinda hard to do when the show can't get their numbers right

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The Best of Hans Zimmer (sheet music available)

The Best of Hans Zimmer (with sheet music DOWNLOAD HERE)

Hans Florian Zimmer (born 12 September 1957) is a German film score composer and record producer. Zimmer's works are notable for integrating electronic music sounds with traditional orchestral arrangements. Since the 1980s, he has composed music for over 150 films. His works include The Lion King, for which he won the Academy Award for Best Original Score in 1995, the Pirates of the Caribbean series, Interstellar, Gladiator, Crimson Tide, Inception, Dunkirk, and The Dark Knight Trilogy. He has received four Grammy Awards, three Classical BRIT Awards, two Golden Globes, and an Academy Award. He was also named on the list of Top 100 Living Geniuses, published by The Daily Telegraph. Zimmer spent the early part of his career in the United Kingdom before moving to the United States. He is the head of the film music division at DreamWorks studios and works with other composers through the company that he founded, Remote Control Productions, formerly known as Media Ventures. His studio in Santa Monica, California has an extensive range of computer equipment and keyboards, allowing demo versions of film scores to be created quickly. Zimmer has collaborated on multiple projects with directors including Ridley Scott, Ron Howard, Gore Verbinski, Michael Bay, and Christopher Nolan.

Hans Zimmer | Soundtrack Compilation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqiTJK_uzUY Find Franz Zimmer's complete sheet music books in our Library.

Track list: Interstellar 00:00 - 01:05 - Organ Variation 00:00 - 03:54 - Tick Tock 03:54 - 05:10 - Cornfield Chase 05:10 - 08:08 - Where We're Going 07:55 - 08:56 - No Time For Caution Inception 08:57 - 13:17 - Time Pirates of the Caribbean 13:15 - 14:18 - Davy Jones 14:19 - 16:15 - The Kraken 16:15 - 18:17 - At Wits End 18:17 - 20:13 - What Shall We Die For 20:13 - 24:02 - One Day 24:03 - 26:37 - Up Is Down 26:38 - 30:05 - Drink Up Me Hearties Batman Trilogy 30:06 - 30:34 - Bank Robbery 30:34 - 31:45 - Antrozous 31:45 - 32:18 - Barbastella 32:19 - 33:06 - Vespertilio 33:05 - 36:07 - A Dark Knight 36:07 - 36:33 - Aggressive Expansion 36:33 - 36:41 - Im Not A Hero 36:42 - 39:51 - Like A Dog Chasing Cars 39:51 - 42:08 - Despair Man of Steel, The Da Vinci Code, Gladiator, The Last Samurai, Blue Planet II, Planet Earth II 42:09 - 44:19 - Flight 44:15 - 47:57 - Chevaliers de Sangreal 47:57 - 50:34 - Now We Are Free 50:35 - 51:42 - Spectres In The Fog 51:42 - 54:25 - Safe Passage 54:26 - 56:48 - The Blue Planet 56:48 - 58:11 - Planet Earth II Suite

Hans Zimmer, a short biography.

Hans Florian Zimmer (born September 12, 1957, in Frankfurt am Main) is a German film composer, arranger and music producer. He works in Hollywood. He has been nominated eleven times for an Oscar, fourteen times for a Golden Globe Award and eleven times for a Grammy Award. Hans Zimmer received his first Oscar nomination in 1989 for the film Rain Man. In 1995, he was awarded an Oscar for the film music for The Lion King. In 2010, he received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. A star followed in 2011 on the Boulevard der Stars in Berlin. Zimmer was awarded the Federal Cross of Merit 1st Class in 2018. Hans Zimmer's soundtrack albums have sold more than 25.4 million copies worldwide. Hans Zimmer was born in Frankfurt am Main, the son of chemical entrepreneur Hans J. Zimmer. As a child, he learned to play the piano in his parents' house, in the Villa Gans in Kronberg, although he only had a piano teacher for a short time because he didn't want to submit to his discipline regarding the basic rules for a pianist. On the Harald Schmidt Show on February 15, 2002, when asked if he had music lessons, he replied: 'Yes, I had them for a week. It was like that, either I would have killed the teacher or he would have killed me.��� He was a graduate of Hurtwood House boarding school in Dorking, Surrey, England, and played synthesizers in groups such as Krisma and Helden (with Ultravox drummer Warren Cann). He did not go through an academic musical education. Hans Zimmer is married and has four children. In 1999, at a press conference on the Holocaust documentary The Last Days, he declared that he was Jewish. In 1939 his mother fled from the National Socialists to England.

Years in England In the late 1970s, Hans Zimmer was a composer of commercial music jingles and worked on the modular synthesizer in the video clip of the Buggles hit video Killed the Radio Star. He composed advertising and radio jingles in the London studio Air Edel. There he met the well-known English film music composer Stanley Myers, whose assistant he became in 1980. Zimmer learned a lot about composing for an orchestra from him. Through this collaboration, he received his first smaller commissions for composing film music. In the late 1980s, he drew attention to himself with the soundtrack for films such as Rain Man. Hollywood Zimmer was best known in the early 1990s for his innovative combination of orchestral and synthesizer sounds. With Ridley Scott's Black Rain and Ron Howard's Backdraft - Men Who Walk Through Fire, he created a new style of setting music to action films. Backdraft in particular is considered a milestone in film music history: Zimmer's decision to set the film to music with a so-called 'wall-to-wall score', i.e. to underlay the majority of the film with music, created the prototype for many action film scores that were later released in Hollywood were produced. The style, roughly based on a powerful main theme, rhythmic action motifs, and gentler passages for the two main characters (portrayed by Kurt Russell and William Baldwin), is found in numerous later film scores. Together with his partner Jay Rifkin, he founded the film music studio Media Ventures in the mid-1980s. In 2003, after a legal battle with Rifkin, Zimmer took over the business with his company Remote Control Productions. Remote Control is a kind of talent factory, in which some other film music composers, such as Examples include Steve Jablonsky, James Dooley, Heitor Pereira, and Geoff Zanelli. Notable former Remote Control composers include Klaus Badelt, John Powell, Nick Glennie-Smith, Mark Mancina, and Harry Gregson-Williams. After completing work on Illuminati, Zimmer planned to give a few concerts, but this has only been possible to a limited extent so far, as he has been accepting new orders. In an interview with the website Amazona.de, he said that most of the directors he works with are his friends, so he finds it difficult to turn down an assignment from them. Finally, in 2016, Zimmer was on a major tour of Europe with an orchestra of 70 musicians. Various of his soundtracks were played live in front of an audience, combined with short stories by Zimmer, e.g. about the death of Heath Ledger in 2008, shortly after filming The Dark Knight. The live tour premiered on April 6, 2016, at Wembley Arena in London. The tour ended on June 5, 2016, with a concert in the ancient theater of Orange. Johnny Marr accompanied Zimmer on the electric guitar at a few selected concerts in London, Berlin, Prague, Manchester, Dublin and Orange. Zimmer received a great deal of attention after his concert on April 22, 2016, in the König-Pilsener-Arena in Oberhausen, when he played Prince's song Purple Rain after his death. In 2017, Zimmer was again on the road on a live tour, for the first time in the United States, Australia, New Zealand and South Korea. The concert tour began on April 14, 2017 at the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles and ended on October 7 at Seoul Olympic Stadium. Zimmer now lives and works in Los Angeles and is one of the most successful and influential film composers in Hollywood history. In 2018, Hans Zimmer was nominated for an Oscar for the eleventh time. In the European Year of Intercultural Dialogue 2008, Hans Zimmer was an ambassador in Germany. The aim of the European Commission's campaign was to inform people in all 27 EU countries about the benefits of diversity and to get them excited about intercultural exchange. In response to the Aurora attack in July 2012, he released the composition Aurora. All proceeds should be donated to the victims and their families. Style The use of ethnic instruments such as B. the duduk in Gladiator (played by the Armenian duduk player Djivan Gasparyan), flutes in Rangoon - In the heart of the storm or taiko in Last Samurai, is one of his trademarks. This also includes compositions with African influences, such as B. Two Worlds, In the Glory of the Sun, The Lion King and Black Hawk Down, but also music for comedies like It Can't Be Better or Tricks or for the action film The Dark Knight Rises. He works regularly with directors Ridley Scott, James L. Brooks, Gore Verbinski, Penny Marshall and Christopher Nolan. Hans Zimmer himself describes Ennio Morricone as his great idol. Zimmer frequently collaborates with the same musicians. In many pieces of music, a guitar is played by Heitor Pereira or a cello by Martin Tillman. Long before filming begins, Zimmer usually composes suites that contain all the essential components of the later film music. Towards the end of the production, the suites serve as the basis for the music, which is written directly to the picture. But the suites themselves are mostly used in the film and on the soundtrack - e.g. For example, tracks 9 through 13 from The Da Vinci Code soundtrack are the suite written by Zimmer. In an interview, Zimmer explains this way of working as follows: 'I've been thinking about how I've been working lately. Writing things before shooting is a better way. Film technology has changed so much in recent years, especially with computer effects, that it is now possible to make last-minute changes to the film. I think the old way of waiting for the film to finish editing and then writing and recording the music for the last six to twelve weeks or whatever doesn't work anymore these days. So it makes sense to write some of the music before those 12 weeks. That gives you and the filmmakers something to work with while you think about the music to go with the picture. That way, you might have more influence on the style of the film. It also solves those annoying temp track issues.” – Hans Zimmer Other composers often help Zimmer with his music, especially towards the end of film production, by orchestrating, arranging or composing parts for him based on his suites and musical ideas. This collaborative way of working is controversial for some film music fans, but not entirely uncommon in Hollywood. Rupert Gregson-Williams says the following in an interview: “Hans is an icon and – in my opinion – most of the criticism against Media Ventures is completely unfounded. The most common misconception is that everyone works on the issues while Hans gets the credit for it. Well, I worked with Hans in Los Angeles for three months on different scenes for The Prince of Egypt - the sandstorm sequence where Moses is woken up by a camel and the scene with the death of the firstborn - and all the themes were written by Hans. My job was to take the thematic content from Hans and work it into my pieces for the scene. There was a lot of discussion and talk about the contextual meaning behind the film and how the music relates to it, but the driving force behind it was Hans. Just to watch him work, to be creative and to be in this atmosphere for once was wonderful. Also, Hans is a phenomenal orchestrator. That's something people don't understand.' – Rupert Gregson-Williams Hans Zimmer not only composes, but also takes on the execution as the responsible music producer for films, such as 2006 with Over the Hedge and 2015 with Terminator: Genisys. Read the full article

[selaone]

CRACK IV (Lost Juke-Footwork Compilation) [2021]

DL: https://mega.nz/file/ldAzHDpR#Fi5sJt0aLqgAmMfhUb5fu8VJ8ARWERgAQUXy5WNFJjY

Listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcZIxCOOaKc

DL Vol I - III (Updated, 2022) : 

https://mega.nz/file/UV5w1ZZJ#TAMffZXelazPPyPfSu2oG8qdwCbWX_ozDzpTuaLe-4A

https://mega.nz/file/dNQBGLpJ#BGXPyT8oTotGz353_h_qnY-jUQROKFf61f9cOLPdvVA

https://mega.nz/file/pQ4HiAYb#MtxuXF79trkT3R0oogkB0eoUZPlZ873t9sZsMZtcfkI

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Welcome -

Coming almost 10 years after the release of the original compilations - 

I am excited to share with you the 4th installment of the 'CRACK' Juke/Footwork series: 'CRACK IV' A selection of 60 lost tracks circa 2007 - 2010, once again keying in on the myspace era of this genre.

As stated on the original post back in 2013: - The point of these compilations was “to receive a non-jaded representation of what juke / footwork sounds like (or, better yet, sounded like during this time) (not the trap / UK-influenced sound).” 

This is still my intent. 

The other main goal here is to make these tracks accessible to the original DJs/Producers that lost their work - (this has been one of the most important parts of me puting this together). -

I really hope you enjoy - and a huge thank you to the person that helped make this possible 

- SELA. _____

tracklist:

01 - Let Me Kno - DJCH0PPA 02 - I Can't - Black Boi and Vell 03 - T-JaY RoLLiN ReMiX - T-Jay 04 - HIT THEM WORKS - DJ RODON 05 - Damn Gurl Dat Bak Is Fat - DJ Elmoe 06 - Look in my Eyes2010 - DJ SHAWN 07 - Steady Crack - DJ Khiry 08 - 2008 TRAX YOU DIG - DJ LLOYD 09 - DJ CIVIC 08 - DJ CIVIC 10 - Battle In Da Circle - DON DON 11 - Uma Beast - DJ Flame 12 - MAKE LOVE - DJ Rah Rah 13 - The Business - DJ Cellaz 14 - I CNT SLEEP - Phaze 15 - JB - DJ L.A. 16 - Are Last Words - DJ Nell 17 - ClOSER - DON DON 18 - Dunn Da DuNT - DJ Nate 19 - CHUCKY TRACK - DJ RODON 20 - PANIC COM ON - DJ PANIC 21 - FEELiiN U - DJ Jay-H 22 - DJ VON (KOK CD) - DJ VON 23 - Don't Get Boxed Out - DJ Khiry 24 - DJ LLOYD 2008 TAKE OVER KIIIID - DJ LLOYD 25 - WHATS A GOON TO A GOBLIN - DJ KREEP 26 - HALO TRACK - DJ MELL 27 - Ghost Get Difficult - Bishop 28 - Feeling - DJ Rah Rah 29 - PUMP THEM - DJ RON DA DON 30 - SOUND 4 KICK - DJ C-KILLA 31 - Get Buck Gurl - DJ KMAN 32 - One Rep - Bishop 33 - Night Pianos - DJ L.A. 34 - BURN THAT - DJ Kellen 35 - KuSH - T-Jay 36 - Purple(snippet) - Black Boi and Vell 37 - take em out the circle pt 2 - DJ Yoshi 38 - Keshia Cole Trust 09 - DJ Frankie 39 - BALL A BITCH UP PT. 2 - DJ Lil Jay 40 - Godzilla Horns - DJ C-Lo 41 - No Realer - DJ Spook 42 - Da-Da-Do Bakin Time! - DJ Nate 43 - Turn em up - DJ Atari 44 - WolfPack2010 - DJ SHAWN 45 - crack track - DJ Lil Ant 46 - You A Jerk Freakin.mp3 - DJ Fatman 47 - Clips from Re-Turn of Choppa - DJCH0PPA 48 - Dat Ass snippet ft College Boi Flocka - Black Boi and Vell 49 - Whistle - DJ F50 50 - BUS DOWN - DJ WHITE OWL 51 - MAKE HIM BANG - DJ LLOYD 52 - ITS NOT - DJ D MAN 53 - Ready or not - DJ Deadman 54 - DJ L.A. (KOK CD) - DJ L.A. 55 - Track 9 Mix - DJ Jay-H 56 - WHATS GOOD FOOTWORK TRACK - D-JAY D~LO 57 - Scary Wurkz - DJ Curtdog 58 - Watch Ya Mouth - Bishop 59 - Never Forget - DJ Nell 60 - Sneak peak 08Spring - Phaze

Cover Art edited by SELA.

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!!! - [Please search the artists and songs included in these files to support via Bandcamp or other streaming platforms. Links will be added when found. Also see the attached image of the ‘Footwork Family Tree’ for more info. ❤︎ to all]

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*Note: Possible misinfo maybe for the track '18 - Dunn Da DuNT - DJ Nate', just doesn't sound like a DJ Nate track but not sure. *Track '46 - You A Jerk Freakin.mp3 - DJ Fatman' was found with this info but 'DJ Keisha' tag can be heard on the song.

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ORIGINAL POST - CRACK I - III / READ MORE: https://selaone.tumblr.com/post/182514691928/crack-i-iii-the-lost-juke-footwork https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/644-footworks-forgotten-archives-are-making-the-best-compilations-youve-never-heard/

❤︎

[kiragecko]

DC Sidekick Age References

Here’s a dump of all the references I’ve found. Know I’m missing a lot, and quite a few were found on other sites that didn’t give me the most precise info.

If you know of anything else, can correct a mistake you see, or want to discuss comic book aging - please send me an ask, message, or reblog!

?? - means I don’t know where the info is from, “quotes” are direct copies of the wording in the comic

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?? Parents died when Bruce was 8

Detective Comics #27 (May 1939) – Batman introduced

Detective Comics #38 (Apr 1940)  – Dick is (8 when parents killed/9 when Robin) 12 when he becomes Robin, it's Bruce's 3rd year as Batman

More Fun Comics 73 (Nov 1941) – Green Arrow Introduced

1962 - JLA formed

1964 – Dick teams up with Wally and Garth

Teen Titans 1 (Jan-Feb 1966) – Teen Titans form, Donna is introduced (all 5 are 14ish?)

Detective 359 (Jan 1967) – Babs introduced, has PhD, has graduated

Batman #217 (Dec 1969) – Dick graduates high school, enrolls in University (starts 3 months later)

1971 - Roy discovered using drugs by Ollie and Hal in a drug den (he was trading arrows for drugs), retcon has Wally and Dick discovering him at tower and making him promise to get help

Justice League 116 (Mar-Apr 1975) Charley Parker is 16

Batman Family 10 (Mar-Apr 1977) – Dick is teenager, Babs is 25

Teen Titans 53 (Feb 1978) – Dick, Wally, Donna, Vic all started college at same time

DC Special Series: The Flash Spectacular (May 1978) – Wally graduates high school

New Teen Titans 1 (Nov 1980) – Raven forms New Titans, Gar is 16 during run

New Teen Titans 2 (Dec 1980) – Slade meets team, Grant dies

1981 - Dick drops out of university after 1 semester, he never really was interested

New Teen Titans 20 (June 1982) – Vic turns 19, Donna already is

Tales of the New Teen Titans 2 (July 1982) – Raven turned 18 just before forming Titans

Batman #357 (Mar 1983) – Jason’s first appearance

Detective Comics #526 (May 1983) – Bruce adopts Jason, Dick is there and approving

New Teen Titans 34 (Aug 1983) – Terra turns 16

Batman #368 (Feb 1984) – Dick gives Jason the Robin costume, Jason becomes Robin

Blue Devil(84) – Eddie is 11/12

Tales of the Teen Titans (May 1984) – Joey introduced, Author describes him as 17?

New Teen Titans #39 (Feb 1984) – Dick stops being Robin, Wally quits being a superhero/the team

Tales of the Teen Titans 50 (Feb 1985) – Terry and Donna's wedding (she got married while 19)

New Teen Titans 10 (July 1985) – Kole says she's at least 18

Crisis on Infinite Earths 7 (Oct 1985) – Supergirl dies in Superman’s arms after mostly destroying the Anti-Monitor, who has to flee reality

New Teen Titans 18 (Mar 1986) – Dick turns 20 (“Dick Grayson celebrates his birthday away from home with a traditional Tamaranean feast.” (While sulking because Kory got space-married))

New Teen Titans 20 (May 1986) – Roy locates baby Lian, Terry Long is 29

?? Roy is 22(when he gets Lian)

Batman #404 - Batman Year One (Feb 1987) – Bruce is 25, spent 12 years training, became Batman at 26, Barbara Gordon is pregnant, her and Jim move to Gotham

Detective Comics #571 (Feb 1987) – we see Bruce’s fear gas induced vision of Jason’s tombstone (birth: 1974 – death: 1986, so he’d be 12)

Secret Origins 13 (April 87) – 15 years ago, it was Dick’s 5th birthday. Soon after tenth birthday, parents are killed. [Set during New TT 18])

Batman #409 (July 1987) – Jason becomes Robin (In Detective Comics, Jason has been Robin the whole time, but is still being wwritten with Pre-Crisis personality)

Flash 1 (June 1987) – Wally turns 20

New Teen Titans Ann 3 (Nov 1987) – Danny Chase is 13 and introduced

Batman #416 (Feb 1988) – Dick in Gotham, meets the new Robin on patrol. Confronts Bruce later, says he was ‘fired’ less than a year ago (since then he was briefly in college), makes Bruce admit he missed him. Dick finds Jason again, expose the drug dealers, and Dick gives Jason his old costume (symbolically, since Jason already has one) and a phone number, Dick was Robin for 6 years

Batman #427 (Winter 1988) – Jason dies

Batman #436, Batman: Year Three (Aug 1989) – 2 years since Dick stopped being Bruce’s sidekick (When he became Nightwing? Or when he quit?), parents died 10 years earlier

Batman #441, A Lonely Place of Dying (Nov 1989) – Tim 13, was 7 when Dick’s parents died

Robin #1 (Jan 1991) – Tim debuts as Robin

New Titans 84 (March 1992) – Joey dies

Deathstroke, the Terminator #15 (Oct 1992) – Rose introduced

Team Titans 3 (Nov 1992) – Robert Long is born

Adventures of Superman 500 (June 1993) – Kon appears and escapes from Cadmus with Newboy Legion, John Henry Irons first appearance, Eradicator and Cyborg Superman also appear for first time

Batman: BTAS: Robin’s Reckoning (1993) - 'Richard 'Dick' Grayson: Age 10'

Detective Comics 668 (Nov 1993) – Tim gets license (because dad is disabled) even though he hasn’t turned 16 yet, gets beat up by Jean-Paul

Flash 92 (July 1994) – Bart aged to 14

?? Shortly after Knight’s End – Tim is 15 and in the 10th grade

Flash 0 (Oct 1994) – Wally is 23

Damage 1(94) – Grant is 16

Deathstroke, The Terminator Annual 4 (Aug 1995) – Rose is 14, “What would that do to a kid? A fourteen-year-old girl whose father is an assassin she’s never met?”

Wonder Woman 105(95) – Cassie is 14

Tempest 1(96) – Garth spends many months in other dimension

Aquaman 20 (May 1996) – Garth aged 3-4 years in other dimension, now older than other Titans

Teen Titans 1 (Oct 1996) – Argent, Risk, Joto, Prysm all turn 16(they were conceived by seed things on same day)

Superboy Annual 2 – to Kon: “Happy birthday, Kid - - number one in a long successful series, we hope.” “He will effectively remain sixteen years old - - forever!”

Green Lantern 82(97) – Robert Long is 3

Wonder Woman 121(97) – Terry and Robert die

Secret Origins Giant 1(98) – Bart is “Three. Fifteen. Depends.”, “you’re almost 15, Tim.”

Titans 5(99) – Donna is 23

Titans(99) – Lian is 4

Sins of Youth(99) – Kon 16, aging normally again

Aquaman 63 (Jan 2000) – Future Garth tells granddaughter Donna about Cerdian being born (think this is his weird birth issue)

Wonder Woman Secret Files (2002) – „Wonder Girl is a precocious outgoing 15-year-old named Cassandra „Cassie“ Sandsmark.“

Bruce Wayne: Murderer (2002) – Oracle says Tim is 15

Batgirl #37 (April 2003) – “Cain said ... today was ... my birthday.”

Batgirl #39 (June 2003) – “I see an eighteen-year-old girl, who’s out of her depth.” (Babs about Cass)

Robin #116 (Sept 2003) – Dana: “Oh, I’m so glad we’ll all be together on Thursday ... !” Tim: “Why? What’s Thursday?” Jack: “Yeah. What’s Thursday?” Dana: “Wait a minute – seriously? Tim: “Yeah. Tell. Us.” Dana: “It’s nothing – never mind. Just leave your schedules open for a nice family dinner.”| Jack: “Dana, what’s – “ Dana: “Shh! Thursday ...  the 19th of July ... ?” Jack: “Um ... oh! Right!” | Steph: “So – Thursday!! Are you excited? Got any ideas for it, yet? ... Tim ... ?” [Tim is asleep.] | [Ives and Steph come over, with pizza that says “Happy B-Day Tim.”] Ives: “Sixteen spankings – get that boy up!!” | Dana says: “I remember when I was in 11th grade.” | he also gets the first ‘clue’ for Bruce’s ‘birthday present.’

Teen Titans 1 (Nov 2003) – Gar is 19, Is this Joey’s return?? (He’s puppeting Slade)

Teen Titans ½ (2004) – Rose’s early years, with a ‘6 years ago’ flashback, she was raised in a brothel her mom ran, tutored, never allowed the outside world, but had relationships with kids her age

Detective Comics #790 (Mar 2004) – Jason’s 18th birthday “he would have been 18 today”

Teen Titans 8 (April 2004) – Raven looks 'barely older' than Cassie

TEEN TITANS #1/2 [2004]: The flashback panels totally sync up with my age theories; Flash to 10 years ago: Dick Grayson’s parents die. Flash to 6 years ago: Rose Wilson is schooled at home by her mother, Lili. Flash to 5 years ago: Ravager I is killed. Flash to 3 years ago: Slade is forced to kill Jericho. Flash to 2 years ago: Cadmus attempts to clone Superman. Flash to 18 months ago: Rose deals with the death of her mother. Flash to one week ago: Bart Allen is shot by Slade.

Identity Crisis 4 (Dec 2004) –(Tim still 16)

Green Arrow 47(05) – Mia is 17

Return of Donna Troy 3(05) – Cassie barely 16

Nightwing: Year One(05) – Dick is 26

Batgirl #65 (Aug 2005) – Cass decides to figure out if Shiva is her mom, Jason and Cass roughly the same age

Flash(05/06) – Wally is 26

?? Robin #136 – Tim still 16 ???

Detective Comics #868 (Oct 2010)– Kate is 32 years old??

One Year Later(Mar 06)

Flash 1(06) – Bart 4 years older(20?)

Blue Beetle 2 (June 2006) – Find out Jaime was in space/a pocket dimension for One Year Later

?? Just prior to 52 (July 2006-July 2007)– told Tim is 17 (long before he’s also  17 in Red Robin, 52 is 1 year long)

Teen Titans 42 (Feb 2007) – Eddie is 17

Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds 3-4 (Apr-June 2009) – Bart and Kon back, same as when died

Batman 677 (July 2008) – Batman over 30

Batman: Battle for the Cowl (May-July 2009) – Damian is 10, Ends with Dick and Damian becoming Batman and Robin

Brave & The Bold 2 (May 2007) – Kara is 17, “You have food in the refrigerator older than her, Hal. Who are you, Ollie? No bad thoughts. She’s seventeen.”

Batgirl #1 (Oct 2009) – Steph starting college

Batgirl #7 (Apr 2010) - Damian is "what happens when you work with a 10-year-old."

Red Robin #12 (July 2010) – Tim spent “a few months” looking for evidence before returning to Gotham, becomes emancipated minor

Detective Comics #871 (Jan 2011)– Mention that Dick and Babs went to prom together

Red Robin #25 (Sept 2011) – Tim “and you are only 17”

The Batman Files (Oct 2014) – Jason was 15 at death (seen on death certificate)

?? Rebirth Young Justice series – Cassie: “didn’t mean to end up back in high school feeling - - like I did back when I went to high school.” Later, she says she’s in Metropolis “Working. Going to school in the fall.” So she’s probably starting college.

?? Bart in some Rebirth comic: “Am I six? Am I nineteen? That’s a really freaky thing, right?”

?? At some point: Donna says shes a little older than Kyle

[katekaned]

Barbara Gordon made her DC comics debut in 1967 in Detective Comics #359, “The Million Dollar Debut of Batgirl.” Initially introduced to the comics as a way to test fan reception to the idea of a new “Batgirl” appearing in the 1960s ABC Batman show, Barbara would outlast her television counterpart and go on to become a vital part of the DC universe and a fan favorite character. 

Under the cut is a summary of Barbara Gordon’s comic history pre-New 52 and an extensive list of comics in which she appears as the information jockey and wheelchair-using superhero, Oracle.

Basic Reading

Batman Chronicles #5 (1996)

Black Canary/Oracle: Birds of Prey (1996)

Birds of Prey (1999)

Batgirl (2000)

Batgirl (2009)

Birds of Prey (2010)

Pre-Crisis on Infinite Earths, Barbara was the daughter of Gotham Police Commissioner James Gordon and the head librarian at the Gotham City Public Library. Barbara takes on a second job as Batgirl after fighting Killer Moth while dressed up in a Batman-inspired costume for a masquerade ball. Although Batman is resistant to the idea of a girl helping him fight crime, he is unable to prevent Babs from assisting him and Robin in protecting Gotham. She also develops a close friendship and working relationship with Supergirl. During the 1970s, Barbara Gordon became a Congresswoman and continued to operate as Batgirl in Washington, D.C. After failing to be reelected, Babs returned to Gotham, where she worked as Batgirl up until the Crisis.

Post-Crisis on Infinite Earths, Barbara’s continuity underwent extensive reconstruction. No longer Jim Gordon’s daughter, she was his niece until her parents died while she was a teenager and her uncle brought her to Gotham and adopted her. A talented athlete and genius with a photographic memory, Babs longed to join the GCPD, but Jim did not like the idea of her having such a dangerous career. Eventually, Babs found her own way to help in joining Batman and Robin in fighting crime as Batgirl. In Batgirl Special (1988), Barbara retired from being Batgirl and resumed her civilian life. Later that year, the infamous graphic novel, The Killing Joke, was published. In Alan Moore’s story, Barbara Gordon was shot and assaulted by the Joker, in an attempt to drive her father insane. As a result of her gunshot wound, Babs was paralyzed from the waist-down and began using a wheelchair to get around. Although she served as little more than a plot device, the repercussions of what happened to her in The Killing Joke would reshape much of the DC Universe. 

Here’s where Oracle enters. Although DC editorial, by and large, had no further plans for Barbara Gordon’s character post-Killing Joke, writers Kim Yale and John Ostrander sought to create a place in comics for a superhero in a wheelchair who had no special powers of her own. Thus, Oracle was created as Barbara Gordon’s hacker and information specialist superhero persona. Oracle would first appear in Ostrander’s run on Suicide Squad before slowly reappearing as a Batman supporting character in the 1990s. In 1996, Chuck Dixon wrote the one-shot Black Canary/Oracle: Birds of Prey, which eventually spun off into its own popular and much beloved series in 1999. Oracle remained an integral part of DC canon, training two new Batgirls, working with Batman, the Birds of Prey and even the Justice League, until the New 52 reboot in 2011, when DC decided to return Babs to her status as Batgirl. The editorial decision to have Barbara undergo surgery to rid her of her paralysis has undergone major scrutiny and been heavily maligned by disability advocates, however, Babs is no closer to returning to her role as Oracle or her wheelchair.

Below is a (mostly) chronological list of Oracle’s most prominent appearances in DC comics! (My personal favorites will be bolded.)

[As a note - many of Oracle’s early appearances have her hiding behind a computer/in a cameo role, as her identity was not yet revealed to comic readers. I am including these early appearances in my list to show people how the mystery unfolded, but if you want to skip they will be marked with an asterisk!]

Oracle Appears

Batman Chronicles #5: Oracle -- Year One: Born of Hope (1996) [Not Oracle’s first appearance historically, but the story of how she came to be and essential to her character.]

Suicide Squad #23 [1st appearance!] - #24, #26 (1989)*

Manhunter #13 (1989)*

Suicide Squad #32, #38 (1989-1990)*

Firestorm: The Nuclear Man #98 (1990)*

Batman #451 (1990)

Suicide Squad #48-#49 (1990-1991)

Suicide Squad #51 (1991)

Hawk and Dove #22-24 (1991)

Suicide Squad #54-#57, #59, #61, #63-#65 (1991-1992)

Hacker Files #5-#6 (1992-1993)

Oracle Joins the Bat-Family / Meets Black Canary

Showcase '94 #12: "A Little Knowledge" (1994)

Batman #520 (1995)

Nightwing #2 (1995) [A cameo appearance but the beginning of Dick and Babs’ complicated and lengthy post-crisis history]

Underworld Unleashed: Patterns of Fear #1 (1995)

Black Canary/Oracle: Birds of Prey #1 (1996)

Showcase '96 #3: "Birds of a Feather" (1996)

Detective Comics #695 - #696 (1996)

Robin #30, #33 (1996)

Birds of Prey: Manhunt #1- #4 (1996)

Green Arrow #115 - #117 (1996 - 1997)

Birds of Prey: Revolution #1 (1997)

Nightwing #7 (1996)

Nightwing Annual #1 (1997)

Birds of Prey: Wolves #1 (1997)

Detective Comics #706 - #707 (1997)

Nightwing #½ (1997)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #32, #35 - #37 (1997)

Batman #547 (1997)

DC Universe Holiday Bash #2: "The Old Lane" (1997)

Nightwing/Huntress #3 (1998)

Nightwing #16, #18

Birds of Prey: Batgirl #1 (1998)

Cataclysm

Batman: Shadow of the Bat #73 (1998)

Batman #553 (1998)

Batman: Shadow of the Bat #74 (1998)

Nightwing #20 (1998)

Detective Comics #721 (1998)

Robin #53 (1998)

Nightwing #24 (1998)

Oracle Joins the Justice League 

JLA #17 - #19 (1998)

JLA: Secret Files & Origins #2 (1998)

DC One Million #1 - #2 (1998)

JLA #1,000,000 (1998)

DC One Million #3 - #4 (1998)

JLA/Titans #1 - #3 (1998)

JLA #36 - #41 (1999 - 2000)

JLA: Secret Files & Origins #3 (2000)

Road to No Man’s Land

Robin #55 (1998)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #47 (1998)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #49 (1999)

Detective Comics #727 (1998)

Batman #562 (1999)

Robin #58 (1998)

Batman Chronicles #15: "Between Stars Above and Below" (1999)

Birds of Prey #1- #14 (1999 - 2000)

No Man’s Land

Batman: No Man's Land #1 (1999)

Batman: Shadow of the Bat #83 (1999)

Batman #563 (1999)

Detective Comics #730 (1999)

Batman #565 (1999)

Detective Comics #732 (1999)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #54 - #55 (1999)

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #119 (1999)

Batman: Shadow of the Bat #87 (1999)

Batman #567 (1999) [Introduces Cassandra Cain, the second Batgirl and Oracle’s first protege.]

Detective Comics #734 (1999)

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #120 (1999)

Batman: Shadow of the Bat #88 (1999)

Detective Comics #735 (1999)

Batman #569 (1999)

Batman: Day of Judgment (1999)

Nightwing #35, #37 - #39 (1999)

Robin #71 (1999)

Batman #573 (2000)

Detective Comics #740 (2000)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #60 - #61 (2000)

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #126 (2000)

Detective Comics #741 (2000)

Birds of Prey #15 - #19 (2000)

Batgirl #1 - #5 (2000)

Batman: Gotham City Secret Files & Origins (2000)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #64 - #65 (2000)

Batman: Gotham Knights #6 (2000)

Nightwing #44 (2000)

The Hunt for Oracle

Nightwing #45 (2000)

Birds of Prey #20 (2000)

Nightwing #46 (2000)

Birds of Prey #21 (2000)

Nightwing 80-Page Giant #1 (2000)

Birds of Prey #22 - #26 (2000 - 2001)

Batgirl #7, #9 - #10 (2000 - 2001)

Batman: Gotham Knights #12 (2001)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #72 - #74 (2001)

Officer Down

Robin #86 (2001)

Birds of Prey #27 (2001)

Catwoman #90 (2001)

Nightwing #53 (2001)

Detective Comics #754 (2001)

Birds of Prey #28 - #35 (2001)

Batgirl #14 (2001)

Batman #590 (2001)

Harley Quinn #6 - #7 (2001)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #80 - #82 (2001)

Batgirl #17 (2001)

Nightwing #55 - #58 (2001)

Harley Quinn #11 (2001)

Nightwing: Our Worlds at War #1 (2001)

Joker: Last Laugh

Joker: Last Laugh Secret Files #1 (2001)

Birds of Prey #36 (2001)

Batgirl #21 (2001)

Joker: Last Laugh #3 (2001)

Joker: Last Laugh #5 (2001)

Robin #95 (2001)

Joker: Last Laugh #6 (2002)

Nightwing #63 (2002)

Birds of Prey #37 - #38 (2002)

Robin #96 - #97 (2002)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #84 (2002)

Batgirl #22 - #23 (2002)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #88 - #90 (2002)

Batgirl: Secret Files & Origins (2002)

Bruce Wayne: Murderer? / Fugitive

Batgirl #24 (2002)

Nightwing #65 (2002)

Batman: Gotham Knights #25 (2002)

Birds of Prey #39 (2002)

Nightwing #66 (2002)

Batman: Gotham Knights #26 (2002)

Robin #99 (2002)

Birds of Prey #40 (2002)

Batman #600 (2002)

Batgirl #27 (2002)

Birds of Prey #43 (2002)

Batgirl #29 (2002)

Batman: Gotham Knights #30 (2002)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #91 (2002)

Batman #605 (2002)

Batgirl #25 - #26 (2002)

Azrael: Agent of the Bat #93 - #95 (2002)

Batgirl #30 (2002)

Birds of Prey #44 - #48 (2002)

Nightwing #71 - #73 (2002)

Batgirl #33 (2002)

Nightwing #75 (2003)

Batman: Family #3, #6, #8 (2003)

Birds of Prey #49 - #53 (2003)

Batgirl #35 - #37 (2003)

Nightwing #77 - #79 (2003)

Birds of Prey: Catwoman/Oracle (2003)

Batgirl #39 - #42 (2003)

Birds of Prey #54 - #55 (2003)

Nightwing #81 (2003)

Detective Comics #790 (2004)

Nightwing #83 - #89 (2003 - 2004)

Batgirl #45 - #54 (2003 - 2004)

Birds of Prey #56 - #74 (2002-2004) [Gail Simone’s iconic run on Birds of Prey begins with issue 56 and goes until 108. This is an absolute must-read for any Oracle/Barbara Gordon fan]

Birds of Prey: Secret Files & Origins (2003)

War Games

Detective Comics #797 (2004)

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #182 (2004)

Nightwing #96 (2004)

Batgirl #55 (2004)

Batman #631 (2004)

Detective Comics #798 (2004)

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #183 (2004)

Nightwing #97 (2004)

Batman: Gotham Knights #57 (2004)

Catwoman #35 (2004)

Batman #632 (2004)

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #184 (2004)

Nightwing #98 (2004)

Robin #131 (2004)

Batman: Gotham Knights #58 (2004)

Batgirl #57 (2004)

Catwoman #36 (2004)

Batman #633 (2004)

Birds of Prey #75 - #90 (2004 - 2006)

Batgirl #67 (2005)

Nightwing #117 (2006)

Villains United: Infinite Crisis Special #1 (2006)

Robin #148 (2006)

Birds of Prey #92 - #95 (2006)

52 #34 (2007)

Nightwing Annual #2 (2007) [Although this issue is all about Dick and Barbara’s relationship, I would not recommend reading it as it treats both Barbara and Dick’s ex Starfire/Koriand’r incredibly poorly.]

Hawkgirl #64 (2007)

Birds of Prey #96 - #108 (2007)

Black Canary Wedding Planner (2007)

Green Arrow/Black Canary Wedding Special (2007)

Birds of Prey #109 - #123 (2007 - 2008)

Batgirl #2 - #3, #5 - #6 (2008)

Nightwing #150, #153 (2009)

Green Arrow and Black Canary #16 (2009)

Birds of Prey #124 - #127 (2009)

Oracle: The Cure #1 - #3 (2009)

Adventure Comics #516 - #518 (2010) [Appears in the backup feature “The Atom”]

Batgirl #1 - #12 (2009 - 2010)

Detective Comics #862 (2010) [Oracle appears in backup feature “The Question”]

Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Batgirl (2010)

Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Oracle (2010)

Birds of Prey #1 - #7 (2010 - 2011)

Batgirl #15 - #16 (2011)

Birds of Prey #8 - #10 (2011)

Batgirl #19 - #21 (2011)

Birds of Prey #11 - #13 (2011)

Batman Incorporated #8 (2011)

Detective Comics #872 - #873 (2011)

Detective Comics #879 - #881 (2011)

Batgirl #24 (2011)

Birds of Prey #14 - #15 (2011)

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[TRANSCRIPT] Episode 0: The Anime They Once Saw (Or Didn’t See)

Kat  0:00  

Hello and welcome to the Untitled Tallgeese Podcast, a podcast where four of us will watch Gundam Wing and then tell you all about Gundam Wing. My name is Kat, I write about comics on the internet, and I will be your episode moderator for today.

Mallory  0:17  

And I'm Mallory, and I also write about comics. 

Cathy  0:20  

I'm Cathy, I don't write about comics. I am actually a lawyer, which sucks.

All  0:26  

[laughter]

Caitlin  0:28  

I am Caitlin. I'm a PhD researcher in Tokyo right now working on Japanese film. Yeah. 

Kat  0:33  

Extremely legit. 

Caitlin  0:35  

Are we? 

Cathy  0:36  

and we're all here to talk about the Gundam Wing.

Kat  0:38  

[crosstalk] I mean we might be.

Kat  0:41  

We are here to talk about Gundam Wing, the maybe not critically acclaimed, but fandom, okay, audience favorite anime  that was released in 1995 in Japan and then made its way to the US in March 2000 on Toonami. So, we're going to talk about our fandom history and our history with the show Gundam Wing and I guess I will kick that off. So I-- I grew up watching anime because my dad is a huge nerd. So we were obviously watching Toonami. And the promos blew my mind. My friends and I all got really into it in middle school. Then we discovered fanfiction and we started with Heero/Relena fan fiction. [Caitlin: Ugh.] And then then we realized people could be gay. 

Caitlin  1:29  

Uugh, thank god.

Kat  1:30  

That opened up like, I know it was like the clouds parted. rainbows fell from the sky. We were like, Oh, wow.

Mallory  1:39  

[singing] "A whole new world"

Kat  1:40  

[laughter] And then I don't know. I wrote a lot of fanfiction posted it on FF dotnet, got into fandom and then stayed in fandom. So, Mallory?

Mallory  1:53  

I didn't have cable growing up. So whatever anime exposure I got was like, whatever was on Saturday morning cartoons. So Digimon was my first fandom and I was really into that. 

Kat  2:08  

Hell yeah 

Mallory  2:09  

And that sort of like bled into Gundam Wing somehow, I don't really remember how. But I found my way to Gundam Wing, read a lot of fanfic, hadn't ever really watched the show. And then in high school, my friend had some like random episodes from the first season question mark. I have no idea. So I watched those, and really enjoyed that? But I have no idea what their context was, so I'm coming at this pretty, pretty new.

Cathy  2:44  

So you have never watched it from beginning to end?

Mallory  2:47  

No. 

Cathy  2:47  

Got it. This will be fun. 

Mallory  2:50  

I'm expecting to be really disapproving of all the adults in the room. I find that like, now that I'm watching anime about kids, I'm really protective of these kids like, "Hey, this is really unethical!"

Cathy  3:02  

So I'm like Kat, I started watching anime when I was I think around Middle School. I had a friend who got me into Sailor Moon, then I think it was Dragon Ball that was on Toonami at the time? I can't really remember the chronology. 

Kat  3:16  

Yeah. 

Cathy  3:17  

But then they did the promos for Gundam Wing, so then I started watching that on Toonami. And it was my first mecha series. And my first Gundam series, I think it's a lot of people's first Gundam series in the United States. 

Cathy  3:31  

I have attempted to do similar projects to this multiple times where I go back and I rewatch, and I haven't really had the opportunity to actually finish those rewatches. But my memory of it is still kind of stuck of when I was in middle school slash high school. I did get into fandom, so I expect to remember a lot of inaccuracies about what happened. [laughter] Because a lot of what my facts have with this series are have now mutated and changed. But I was a huge Gundam Wing fan, I think it still remains my favorite of the Gundam series just because I have so many memories of it? But I really excited to talk to Mallory, about what you feel and your experiences because it's been so long since I've talked to somebody who actually has never seen the series and doesn't know the story. So I'm super excited about this.

Caitlin  4:24  

Yeah!

Cathy  4:25  

All right, Cait, tell us about your family history.

Caitlin  4:27  

Yeah, so similar to all of us, I guess, I watched anime growing up. I got into Sailor Moon sort of through an accident of just happening to see a very specific episode on Toonami in like 1999, 1998 maybe. So after that, I got really into anime and really into the internet. I think I was very depressed as a child. [laughter] So I spend a lot of time online. I believe that like my my first memories of Gundam Wing are when it was on Toonami: Sailor Moon was on first and then Dragon Ball Dragon Ball Z, and then Gundam Wing. And then they also were showing like the quote unquote unedited versions late 

Cathy  5:09  

Yes!

Kat  5:09  

Yes, the midnight run 

Cathy  5:11  

The midnight run Right. 

Cathy  5:12  

Yeah. So very specific memories of like, I think I was mainly attracted to the, like, team format of Gundam if that makes sense? [Cathy: Yeah yeah yeah!] where it was used to sailor Sailor Moon where you have a team of color coded characters. And I'd, at a younger age been really into Power Rangers, where you had a team of color coded characters. So the marketing of Gundam Wing really appealed. You know, cuz I was just a kid watching on TV, I never really, I don't know if I watched the whole thing as a kid, but I got really into the fandom. And by 2000, 2001, I already knew about gay stuff online.

Kat  5:48  

Wow. Look at you early bloomer.

Caitlin  5:50  

Yeah. So So I got really into the various Gundam Wing pairings, I think it was mainly, I was mainly a 3x4, I think as a child. I went through some, 1x2, and then 2x5 phases. [laughter]

Caitlin  6:09  

I still am a big advocate for 2x5, I think it's underrated.

Kat  6:12  

I'm a big 2x5. 

Cathy  6:13  

2x5 is a good pairing, it definitely is. 

Kat  6:16  

Yeah.

Cathy  6:16  

It's a better pairing as an adult. 

Kat  6:17  

So okay, I think that's actually a pretty good bounce off. So these are the things we remember about Gundam Wing. It was marketed, like, I remember the Toonami marketing 'cause I was really hype for this show. They had like these really extreme commercials. 

Caitlin  6:34  

Yeah. 

Kat  6:35  

Um, and I thought the voice acting was good. I don't know, maybe we'll revisit that during this watch, to see if it still is, 

Caitlin  6:43  

[crosstalk] Was it dubbed?, 

Cathy  6:44  

[crosstalk] It was dubbed, yes.

Kat  6:44  

But I was ready for it. It was dubbed. 

Caitlin  6:46  

It was dubbed. One thing with the with the Japanese voice acting though, is that it's every single famous voice actor from the 90s. And so you can, you can use Gundam Wing is like a six degrees of every single voice actor from the 1990s. 

Caitlin  6:59  

Oh, that's cool.

Mallory  7:00  

I mean, there are a lot of big American or like, dub dub names on the dub side, too.

Cathy  7:06  

One of the things that I remember very strongly about Toonami is that they had what I think we would now call anime music videos, AMVs. 

Kat  7:16  

Yeah 

Cathy  7:17  

But they would play

Caitlin  7:18  

Yeah, 

Cathy  7:18  

These montage trailers, where they'd stich together all their different series. And as they accumulated more anime series, these became really, I think, cinematic and gripping tales, where they would kind of try to tell a story to be about, like bravery or honor or like, 

Kat  7:36  

It's like, plugged directly into my little 11 year old brain like, Whoa,

Cathy  7:40  

Yes. And one of them was, I remember was called, like, "technological development" or something like that, that featured a lot of the Gundam Wing clips. 

Kat  7:47  

Oh, yeah, cuz you only download them from like, KaZaa,  or whatever horrible thing I was putting into my computer. 

Caitlin  7:52  

Yeah. We gotta see if we can find those. [crosstalk] They must be online somewhere.

Cathy  7:56  

They are online. And I think they actually came out with like, I think somebody had either like hand by hand remastered them.

Kat  8:03  

[crosstalk] Oh sick.

Cathy  8:02  

Or they created a remastered version of it. They're wonderful. But that's I think one of the things about Toonami that I remember really strongly was Gundam Wing kind of is one of their, like epitome of like, Cool Anime that I feel like Toonami did and what it did was like they stiched together all these different things Outlaw Star and Tenchi Muyo and all these other stories to create a story about teenage growth, which is kind of strange and also weirdly fitting at the end of the day about like where Gundam is in the whole universe. 

Kat  8:07  

I think that's one of the reasons it blew up so much here because the marketing was really intense. Like Toonami, like it sort of right at the beginning, like people were into Sailor Moon, Dragonball Z was getting big. And like the manga boom was sort of happening in bookstores. So contextually, I think, Cartoon Network knew what the hell they were doing. They were like, "We can market the hell out of this."

Caitlin  8:55  

And also objectively speaking, Gundam Wing was one of their cooler series. Like, Sailor Moon is cool. Tenchi Muyo is not cool. 

All  9:04  

[laughter]

Kat  9:06  

Yeah. 

Caitlin  9:07  

Even even if you love it, it's not really cool. Dragon Ball. Love it. I don't know if it's really cool. Gundam Wing had like a very strong -

Kat  9:14  

[crosstalk] like the chad of animes

Caitlin  9:16  

- adult aesthetic to it, even though it was like, relatively, well, relatively appropriate for like 12 year olds. 

Kat  9:23  

And they swore during the midnight show.

Caitlin  9:25  

Oh yeah, 

Kat  9:26  

They swore and there was blood. 

Caitlin  9:27  

So it was very cool. And so I felt very adult watching it even though I didn't really understand what was going on because it's all this fake politics crap.

Kat  9:35  

Yeah, I was gonna say I did do a rewatch in like, like, right after college, so it was probably around 2010 ish, maybe? And I don't think we finished the series, but it was like, wow, I used to think this was very deep. [laughter] And I thought all the people in it who are the adults like Mallory, you were mentioning earlier, like they're actually like 17 and 19 

Cathy  10:01  

Yes! 

Kat  10:01  

in this show. So watching it at the age of 21, I was like, "Ooh no, don't give these people anything."

Cathy  10:09  

I was actually thinking about that. Because when you said Mallory, "oh, well, I become very protective of the children. I disapprove the adults," in my head of thinking "what adults?" [crosstalk, Caitlin: yeah what adults?] because actually, in Gundam Wing, there's a funny thing where people are either 15, 25 or like 70. And there's no in between and nobody really makes adult decisions. So it, That was one thing that really shocked me because as I go back to revisit it, I think, "Oh my god, I'm actually older than almost everybody in this series."

Caitlin  10:39  

How old, how old is Treize supposed to be? 

Cathy  10:41  

He's like 23, or 24. 

Kat  10:42  

He's 19.

Cathy  10:43  

No, Zechs is 19.

Kat  10:44  

Oh, Zechs is 19. Right. 

Cathy  10:47  

I just the idea of giving people who, you know, would have either been in college or just graduate college in my worldview, huge robots. 

Kat  10:58  

I think the ages of all the characters gets obscured by the anime art style, you know?

Cathy  11:03  

Yeah. 

Kat  11:03  

In a lot of anime fandoms.

Mallory  11:04  

And when you're watching this, when you're a kid, you want to see yourself as the protagonist. So it makes sense that, you know, a 17 year old seems like old and cool, and I want to be that person. And then when you're 30, you're like, the 17 year old should not be at war. 

Kat  11:23  

Relevant is that we definitely watched Evangelion. That was our last series.

Caitlin  11:29  

I don't know, I think, I think Heero Yuy is doing fine in war. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be honest, as a 30 year old, I think these kids are much better at war than I would be. 

Cathy  11:39  

Well, so that's what I find kind of interesting, is that I think this series actually... I don't, I know this wasn't the point but when I rewatched it recently, or just like the first couple of episodes, it seemed, it made a lot of sense, because they were like 15 or 24. Like the series, actually stitches together... 

Caitlin  11:58  

Yeah. 

Cathy  11:58  

...really well, because of how young they are, and kind of like the purity of feeling that they have, which I think is 

Kat  12:05  

Yeah, it is, like 

Cathy  12:06  

only maybe 

Kat  12:07  

like that [indistinguishable?] 

Cathy  12:07  

which I think is like only really, truly possible because I have to think of them as like 15 or 21 or 19 year olds. that is not at all when I took away when I was watching in high school. Right? 

Mallory  12:21  

Well, I mean, right.

Caitlin  12:22  

Part of the ideology of Gundam in general is like trying to restore a form of hope, and youth to, like, young people growing up in Japan, who are the target audience for this, and this idea that, like, you still have the power to change the world, you still have the power to bring about peace in a way that you want, even though you're being manipulated and oppressed by all these crazy adults who make you pilot giant robots. So I think there's a significant, like part of the series is the fact that they are kids who have been recruited into child warfare, and now have to find some way out of that. And like my memory of the series is that even though most of, most of the decisions made are very bad, the kids in general are not making terrible decisions. They're making pretty good decisions.

Kat  13:12  

Yeah, the pilots themselves... 

Mallory  13:14  

[crosstalk] Yeah 

Kat  13:14  

...are like doing the best they can be doing in that circumstance. 

Cathy  13:17  

[crosstalk] Exactly, exactly

Kat  13:19  

But I think it's sort of interesting, 'cause it's like, to me Gundam Wing is definitely like a fandom era, because I think a lot of stuff exemplifies like...there's like a lot of tropes cycling through it. But also like, the series itself, is so perfectly...like, I think of it as a series that are so perfectly set up for fandom because there's a lot of like, here's my one episode mission, and we have to be at a safe house, I guess. And it's just like, a long interminable war. So there's like, a big, a lot of world building. Yeah, that creates all these spaces that sort of separate from all the political machinations of the series.

Caitlin  13:58  

And that's also I think, a lot of what it was meant to be when it was created within the Gundam franchise like it was it was designed to have sort of a BL appeal to girls writing for comic market and that sort of thing. So it had like the setup of five hot guys who you could combine in various forms. And then also like Gundam itself, in general, it's designed to be and a sort of open universe that you can step into at various points, which also facilitates fandom engagement 

Mallory  14:28  

[crosstalk] literal fandom bait. 

Caitlin  14:29  

usually in the form, yeah, usually in the form of model collecting, which is like one of the main Gundam forms of fandom which we probably won't talk about too much on the show. But you, you kind of

Kat  14:41  

Uh I've definitely built some Gundam models. 

Caitlin  14:43  

Yeah. Well, you will be the expert on that because I've never touched a Gundam model in my life. But that is like the big thing where you can you can get the model you can construct it, you can learn a little bit more about the, like, the technology and the different like details of the models and stuff like that. And it just gives you like a slight, like Little bit more of these like tiny narratives and that sort of what the fans are consuming rather than an overall plot that makes sense, which is not what Gundam has really.

Kat  15:11  

So Gundam [Wing] has like the cool robots but also these hot boys in them.

Caitlin  15:15  

That's what I want. 

Mallory  15:16  

I mean Well, that's exactly what I want to show right now. So it sounds perfect?

Kat  15:21  

Honestly, yeah.

Mallory  15:23  

I think Evangelion, sort of, because, Kat, you and I just finished -- or are almost finished with -- Neon Genesis Evangelion [Kat, crosstalk: we haven't done all the movies yet] which was also it was my first time [Cathy, crosstalk: Congratulations, laugh] watching the whole series...wow, grim 

Kat  15:40  

I also only consumed 

Mallory  15:42  

[crosstalk] grim 

Kat  15:42  

[crosstalk] I consumed it like piecemeal too 

Mallory  15:44  

And depressing

Kat  15:45  

It was great. 

Mallory  15:46  

Very good but um grim.

Kat  15:50  

Yeah it's pretty grim.

Cathy  15:52  

Yeah, it's interesting to me because I feel like Evangelion doesn't make a lot of sense as a cultural product unless you've consumed a series like Gundam or its ancestors before watching it and yet Evangelion is a lot of people's introduction to giant robot series. So I always find that kind of interesting...

Caitlin  16:13  

[crosstalk] It's very weird.

Cathy  16:14  

because it, it is subversive, and I think it's subversive even if you don't know the tropes of the giant robot series, of which Gundam is perhaps a prime example. Gundam Wing...

Kat  16:27  

So I was gonna ask that and like, would you say, since Evangelion is definitely a like the subversion of this genre, would you say Gundam Wing is like the type of series that it is subverting? Or do you think it's in a different place?

Caitlin  16:41  

Gundam Wing and Evangelion came out the same year? Gundam Wing is in some ways a, it's already like a parody form of the original iteration of Gundam. 

Kat  16:55  

Okay, so it's--is it like, um, like the pure essence of teens-robots.

Caitlin  17:02  

It's, it's more like, I feel like by the time of Gundam Wing, the tropes of the original Gundam series are so well set that a lot of things in Gundam Wing to, like the fans who watched the original Gundam or like later Gundams, seemed like a rehash but it was designed to bring in new fans. So something like Zechs Merquis is very clearly like a Char Aznable character. It's just sort of a reiteration of that.

Kat  17:29  

So is it like a Star Wars, like a Star Wars sequel?

Caitlin  17:33  

Like how the Force Awakens is kind of a rehash of yeah, of A New Hope. And then, but it still brings in a lot of fans and has appealing characters and good aesthetics

Kat  17:43  

Right, yeah, I guess I think of them, the two shows, as sort of like, splitting the take on... like, what would you say is like the ur-mecha show? 

Cathy  17:52  

The original Gundam 

Caitlin  17:54  

Original Gundam? 

Cathy  17:54  

Yeah, Mobile Suit Gundam. 

Caitlin  17:56  

I mean, they're, they're older iterations, there's other robot shows. But I feel like when people think of mecha, the first thing they think of is Mobile Suit Gundam. 

Cathy  18:06  

So the way like I now think of Gundam Wing after the fact of experiences I have now is that like Gundam Wing is actually a perfect like K-Pop boy band way that they built it and so if you can kind of think of it like that, like it's, you need enough of the tropes and symbols, so that everybody watches it and immediately knows it's a Gundam series.

Cathy  18:30  

Like the colors of Wing Gundam are so obviously 

Kat  18:34  

Yeah.

Cathy  18:34  

a Gundam Mecca and you need that you can't get away from it. And same thing with like Zech's having a mask it the reason I think of it as being in in the Kpop industry is like there's a derivative sense. And that's animated by both like Merchandising, and advertising and what audiences want but at the same time, it's like this incredibly pure understanding of what makes us like things? And like when you get that when you really get it, like, it doesn't matter how like, quote, unquote manipulative or exploitative it can seem like you love it. And that's enough, right to make it like a thing that we all want to keep coming back to.

Mallory  19:12  

And there's basically like, an archetype right? In  all of the different characters like you have the more

Kat  19:18  

Yeah, you have the serious one. 

Mallory  19:20  

That's what I was thinking.

Kat  19:21  

Like, the goofy one.

Mallory  19:23  

Yeah, the goofy one, the sort of mess 

Kat  19:25  

the ugly one, 

Mallory  19:26  

like really cute one.

Kat  19:29  

Yeah, that's why I was thinking American boy bands cuz they all have to have like a type of heartthrob. Yeah, I'm a bad boy. I love death.

Caitlin  19:38  

One of them's, one of them's a rapper.

Kat  19:40  

Okay, so we talked a little bit about how we got into it. We talked a little bit about fandoms. And we touched on pairings, do we want to go into pairings at all? Or like our fave characters, or who we think our fave characters will be Before this rewatch?

Cathy  19:54  

You know before we do that--Mallory, can you try to tell us what you think this series is about? I'm actually really curious, like before you do a complete viewing, like what? what is what is your understanding of what happens in Gundam Wing?

Mallory  20:08  

Um, there's a long interminable war. These boys are recruited by some shadowy government whatever. And they're piloting these mecha. Uugh, I just remember Duo being really annoying.

Caitlin  20:28  

[loud gasp] [laughter] [crosstalk] Oh my god.

Mallory  20:29  

I mean, not annoying, like, being sort of... 

Kat  20:32  

Wow. 

Mallory  20:33  

...the one the pushy one like, he's the challenging one to Heero's "I'm serious and dour." Literally, I have the most broad strokes impressions of what this show is. I just know it looked really fucking cool every time I saw it in, like, a commercial and couldn't watch it.

Cathy  20:55  

Fascinating.

Caitlin  20:57  

Honestly, even having seen Gundam Wing, I'm not sure I could explain it much better. I don't remember who recruited them.

Mallory  21:03  

Okay. Okay, that does make me feel better. Because I was like, Oh, I don't? Do I actually know what the show is? What am I getting myself into? 

Caitlin  21:14  

There's there's a lot of weird politics. 

Mallory  21:17  

Well, I'm really excited for that. And I don't mean that sarcastically. Like, I'm really excited to, to see what this world is like, because I remember, like images or impressions. But everything is like out of context. So it'll be cool to see what that context is. Like deja vu? Oh, I remember that. I've seen that in AMV.

Kat  21:48  

I remember this from fics that just rewrite scenes from this show.

Mallory  21:55  

Yeah, like, what do I know? What do I know of Gundam that is from fanfic only, or is actual canon? I'm curious to figure out.

Kat  22:10  

I think everyone's a lot less obnoxious in canon.

Caitlin  22:14  

That's true. 

Mallory  22:15  

Okay, okay. 

Caitlin  22:16  

This was a this was a really good fandom for the the fandom phenomenon of, you take a character's most, like, annoying trait, and you emphasize it like times 10 in your fanfic.

Cathy  22:28  

Yes.

Kat  22:28  

Yeah 

Caitlin  22:28  

Just so everybody knows you know what that character is like.

Kat  22:31  

Heero's gonna threaten to kill everybody all the time, constantly.

Caitlin  22:34  

"Omae o korosu."

Cathy  22:36  

[laughing crosstalk] And so, it's funny that you guys mentioned safe houses, because actually, there are very few safe houses in the original series. In fact, I think there's like maybe one or two scenes ever, where they are all in a safe house provided by one of their allies. And it's a really fascinating trope, because it like pervades the fanfic? But I remember, that I remember was like a big deal, like, I went back and I was like, actually, these people spend very little downtime with each other in the actual series and I find that fascinating.

Kat  23:12  

Right? So you have to fill it all in. 

Mallory  23:13  

Oh, wait, what?

Caitlin  23:14  

They actually barely know each other.

Cathy  23:16  

Yeah, they truly barely know each other. [crosstalk]

Mallory  23:18  

Wait. Oh no, I thought, I thought this was going to be like..

Kat  23:23  

[crosstalk] They actually never interact. 

Mallory  23:24  

we're going to get together and become like a team 

Caitlin  23:26  

No, no.

Cathy  23:26  

Absolutely not, 

Caitlin  23:27  

They don't fight together; It's 50 episodes of them not interacting. 

Cathy  23:31  

They, they literally have like, they like, there's probably one or two scenes in which all five of them are on the same battlefield at the same time. And almost every single one of those scenes involves them fighting with each other because like, 

Kat  23:44  

[crosstalk]Oh, yeah, they fight each other alone. 

Cathy  23:45  

What's going on? And this was the thing that I'm sure we'll come back to when I came back to this is when I was rewatching. It in college, I realized that of the two people who spend the most time with each other, it's like Trowa and Heero. Because, yes, it is what arc where they actually go on a road trip, which like, 

Kat  24:03  

it's great. I wrote a thing 

Cathy  24:04  

like wiped it from my memory when I was thinking about the series, but it really drives home. You know, again, to your point like what of this series do I did I remember that was just from fanfic, and was just what like the fanfic I read very specifically. And so that was one of the things is like, when you come back as an adult, I was like, all of this stuff is so much more interesting to me because like, I actually, like, I don't get me wrong, I still have shipping opinions. But like, I'm older and I have I I'm famous for this. And Kat knows this. I like don't have OTPs. And I'm like not very good about actually being very loyal to pairings. And so as an adult coming back to this, I was like, Oh, this is actually really interesting because the permutations that fandom came up with also came from, like,  non-canon material, because there's a lot of non-canon material, like promotional images that bear no resemblance whatsoever to canon. 

Kat  24:54  

Okay, I would,  I would call those extra canonical, right?

Caitlin  24:58  

No, they're, they're extra canonical, they count in some form. 

Kat  25:02  

Right? 'Cause they're official.

Cathy  25:04  

I guess so. I mean, sure, we'll talk about that as time comes but like.

Caitlin  25:08  

Listen, a canon is not just the story. It's the entire media mix around it. It's those, it's those things that you can collect. It's the extra manga. It's Frozen Teardrop, 

Cathy  25:18  

Like, Gundam Wing actually, I think is one of the few franchises I know where like "pair the spares" was a real merchandising tactic. 

Kat  25:26  

Yes, it was. 

Cathy  25:27  

And so, so everybody had somebody... gay, I mean, like, not like, 

Kat  25:34  

Wufei had two! 

Cathy  25:35  

They had a gay and a straight interest that they were paired up with. And so, um, so it's like, fascinating to me to come back and be like, actually, the canon is a lot more flexible and interesting than I remembered it.

Caitlin  25:49  

The canon for me is like, remarkable in its commitment to not officially putting anyone together. Like it was, it's very good at balancing out all of the different pairings that it wants to support. 

Mallory  26:01  

Mm hmm. 

Caitlin  26:02  

Um, it's interesting to see which ones got picked up as the main two in fandom, which for me, were always 1x2 and 3x4 dominated the fandom, because they're both like, friendly, maybe talkative, personable guy and like silent, brooding, weirdo, 

Kat  26:22  

Warrior. 

Caitlin  26:22  

What fandom loves! Fandom loves that exact dynamic in every form. And so like, what 1, 1 and 3, were never going to work together because they're both silent and brooding. Fandom was never gonna pick that up. It's too It's too boring. It's not dynamic enough, right?

Mallory  26:37  

Like, you can't fight. There's no banter,

Cathy  26:39  

Which is actually weird, because if you go back and watch the episodes, you'll see it. Heero actually is not that quiet. And Trowa is like a nutcase. And so 

Kat  26:48  

they're really funny together, 

Cathy  26:49  

when they are together, they're actually incredibly dynamic in ways that in fact, the canon doesn't establish 1x2, or 3x4 to be. And so it is really fascinating, because I do agree with Caitlin. What came out of this canon is very different from what I think the show gives. And I don't know the show was like, open minded because it wanted to sell as much merch as possible or

Caitlin  27:13  

It's that.

Cathy  27:13  

Yeah, so I don't know.

Mallory  27:14  

Capitalism.

Kat  27:16  

I am gonna say I think the show is a 3x4 shipper. Like I think if the show had a pairing, it would be a three, it would be 3x4, like from my recollections of the show

Mallory  27:26  

Yeah

Caitlin  27:26  

I always thought that was true. But now 

Cathy  27:28  

I disagree. 

Caitlin  27:29  

I feel like I'm gonna go into this and and be like, they never

Kat  27:32  

Nobody else has a musical interlude.

Cathy  27:34  

But the but the thing is, here's Okay, so not to, like, make this too much about the pairing... But I also think 1x2 and 3x4 become established. I put that in quotes early in the series. And so it becomes entrenched and people assume that that's the pairing. But actually, I just remember so strongly when I went back and rewatched that I was like, there really is not that much evidence for Trowa and Quatre's like instantaneous connection because Quatre has that with almost every other pilot, and Trowa's relationship with Heero is like so much more interesting when I come back to it, even though I definitely think they would never work. They would like killing each other and instead as an adult.

Kat  28:12  

And I mean, I love that pairing. And like the one thing that came out of my rewatch a million years ago was I wrote a 1x3 fic cuz I really love those episodes, and fandom didn't do anything with it. But I feel like, I feel like Quatre and Trowa are framed slightly differently than all the other potential pairings so that they could be together.

Cathy  28:33  

Even up until Endless Waltz like, I really just feel like that that was an early series thing. And then as you go on into the series, that relationship while still important, was not really emphasized any more or less.

Kat  28:47  

But I mean, if it, if it comes out of the gate strong, [laughter] like

Caitlin  28:51  

That's all that matters

Kat  28:52  

I still think that the show was pushing that one if it pitched. Like if it was giving the most evidence to any one of them, I think the early stuff was really like, ~look at this beautiful pairing.~

Caitlin  29:04  

So wait do we all want to, maybe to end this episode, we should all go through and predict what are OTP or pseudo OTP for Cathy will be by the end of this rewatch. 

Kat  29:16  

But also tell me your fave character because that's what I asked like, 15 minutes ago.

Cathy  29:21  

Okay, Kat you first.

Kat  29:23  

Oh, well, my favorite character has always been Duo Maxwell. And I'm predicting that he's still going to be my fave character. And I am going to stake my flag on Duo/Wufei, 2x5.

Cathy  29:36  

Mallory?

Mallory  29:37  

I think from what I remember, I really liked Trowa, I thought Heero was too dour, but I also think that I might relate to him a lot more this time around. So I'm going to say that Heero is going to be my favorite character. And I've always liked...see, I don't know about fandom pairings. I want to say it'll be...well it was Duo/Heero before? No, but I've-- I really like Duo/Wufei so, like, I think that's just always gonna be my Gundam Wing ship.

Cathy  30:20  

So when I was a kid watching it my favorite was Duo Maxwell, but I know from my prior rewatching, or attempts to rewatch the series, that as an older person coming into the series, I actually like the girls a lot more, like Relena and Dorothy and Noin became my favorite characters and I did not give them the credit they deserved when I was watching it as a younger person. 

Cathy  30:41  

I also was 1x2 shipper but again, I know that what I came out of the series really shipping was disastrous Heero/Trowa, and then Duo/Wufei.

Caitlin  30:56  

Okay, I see we are all Duo/Wufei fans now.

Kat  30:59  

[crosstalk] That's why this is going to be the superior Gundam Wing podcast.

Caitlin  31:02  

Yeah. I feel like so, my favorite character when I was originally watching as a kid was Quatre. I think probably because like I always liked like, the friendly blondes in boy bands? 

Kat  31:13  

That go apeshit? 

Caitlin  31:15  

When I got older, I was more into Duo and Duo is was probably still my favorite character. I was into Duo/Wufei for a long time. I just think that they are funny together and terrible. And I actually really like Wufei a lot. I sort of admire that fake honor sort of thing. But I, since everybody said Duo/Wufei, I feel like I should say something else, which is that I think that I will get more into 3x4 again after this rewatch, because it's a comforting pairing, in some ways. It's a return. And we're all very full of anxiety right now. [laughter] And so we just need Quatre and stupid, crazy Trowa, you know, having their pure love connection that fandom imagined for them from the beginning.

Kat  32:02  

It's real.

Mallory  32:03  

I look forward to it. 

Cathy  32:04  

I do too. I also look forward to hating Treize because that's what happened the last time I rewatched this. He's such a fuck boy.

Kat  32:12  

I'm excited to love Dorothy and Relena.

Cathy  32:14  

My god, they're so good. Yeah, they're so good. That's what I should have said is my favorite pairing.

Kat  32:20  

Fandom definitely ruined me for a little bit, like, "urgh, Relena!"

Caitlin  32:24  

When I was a kid, part of the appeal of Gundam Wing fandom was in some ways that it was so sexist, and so I could like act out my own internalized misogyny at the time. And so like, I like I was definitely participating in that of like a group breaking up the boys, whatever. And then in later iterations, I like love Relena. So.

Kat  32:45  

Yeah, she was just such an easy reason for them to get together, right? For 1x2, but in the show, she's way more than a plot device. So that was kind of frustrating.

Caitlin  32:56  

In the show, she's easily the most one of the most interesting and active characters for sure.

Kat  33:02  

As podcast Daddy, I declare Episode Zero officially over. Thank you everyone for your time and catch us in two weeks with Episode One: The boy whose wings killed adolescence.

Caitlin  33:16  

Byeeee [laughter]

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THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE SEEING THESE FROM ME, DIDN’T YA? Me too, I’m so sorry

1. First thing you wash in the shower? Hair.

2. Are you more of a coffee or alcohol drinker? I have like two cups of coffee a month but have only drank booze twice in the past year so coffee I guess.

3. Would you kiss the last person you kissed again? Many times.

4. Do you plan outfits? Sometimes I’ll want to wear a specific shirt but it’s rarely ever clean and I never pick out clothes sooner than right before my shower.

5. How are you feeling RIGHT now? Tired but I still have to put the garbage out before I can go to bed and my neck and knees are killing me so I can’t get off the couch. But I’m in an okay mood.

6. Whats the closest thing to you thats red? Throw pillow.

7. What would you do if you opened your door and saw a dead body? Idk I’d like to say I’d be a badass about it but honestly I’d probs scream.

8. Tell me about the last dream you remember having? I legit don’t remember. I dream every night but they usually fly right out of my head when I wake up.

9. Three of your current feelings? Tired, hungry, in pain. 

10. What are you craving right now? Cheeseburger and onion rings.

11. Turn ons? Um...intelligence, wit, shoulders, eyes, ginger beards.

12. Turn offs? Arrogance, chauvinism, people who don’t like cats.

13. What comes to mind when I say cabbage? Coleslaw.

14. When was the last time you cried? Why? I was doing a concert in my living room last night, as I often do, and some of the songs got me a little emosh.

15. If you could be a superhero, who would you want to be? Black Widow or Loki.

16. Did the one person who hurt you most in your life apologize? No but she did change the way she treated me so I’m taking that for what it is.

17. Do you bite into your ice cream or just lick it? I don’t eat ice cream because it hurts my teeth no matter which method of eating I use.

18. Favorite movie ever? Bring it On.

19. Do you like yourself? Depends on the day. Actually it changes even more frequently than that.

20. Have you ever met a celebrity? Many. None will top Jensen Ackles though. Well. Except Misha. Note the double entendre lol

21. Could you handle being in the military? I definitely could not. I’m also too old to enlist even if I wanted to.

22. What are you listening to right now? Walking Dead, season 1 episode 2. Because every time I start the series over, I pick up from episode 3 since I don’t really care about anyone but Daryl until Jesus happens. But today I felt like a refresher from the beginning.

23. How many countries have you visited? I went to Canada once.

24. Are your parents strict? They were while I was being raised. Then my little sister had like no rules.

25. Would you go sky diving? No way.

26. Would you go out to eat with George W. Bush? Hell yeah.

27. Whats on your mind right now? I’m really just trying to gather the motivation to get up and pee, then take the garbage out so I can go to sleep.

28. Is there anything you want to say to someone? Ehh not really.

29. Have you ever been in a castle? No but I would tour the shit out of some if I had the opportunity.

30. Do you rent movies often? Almost never because who does that anymore? But we did just rent Mile 22 from the Redbox a few weeks ago. It was pretty meh for Wahlberg.

31. Whats your zodiac sign? Leo.

32. When was the last time you had sex? A month ago. Purely by circumstance. My husband is currently on week four of a five week work rotation in Texas.

33. Name five facts about yourself. Lord. I have rapidly deteriorating joints and it fucking hurts everywhere all the time. I’ve spent the past 48 hours going back through my entire tumblr, over 300 pages. I only make homemade mac n cheese, not boxed. I’m almost finished rereading every Desus fic on AO3 for the second time (some more than two but I mean going through literally every page). One of my cats is sitting above my head and purring really loudly and another is sitting to my left snoring.

34. Ever had a near death experience? If so, what happened? Got caught driving in a blizzard. Spun off the road several times, including once off of an on-ramp. Like do not enter, wrong direction. If I hadn’t made it to the hotel right next to the on-ramp I really would’ve been fucked.

35. Do you believe in karma or predestiny? Not really.

36. Brown or white eggs? White.

37. Do you own something from Hot Topic? Most of my material possessions are from the hot topical, yes. Clothes, jewelry, funkos, makeup, miscellaneous other merch. It’s like a lot.

38. Ever been on a train? I have not.

39. Ever been in love? I am.

40. If you were paid 1 million dollars to spend the night in a supposed haunted house, would you do it? I hate this question. Of course I want a million dollars. But I’ve always wanted to stay in a haunted house anyway.

41. If you could trade places with any person living or dead, who would you trade places with? JJ Ackles. Except that I wouldn’t wish my life on her. Can we just be siblings instead?

42. If you could shorten your life expectancy by 10 years to become more attractive, would you do it? I’m already attractive. And my life expectancy isn’t that high as it is.

43. Whom do you admire and why? My husband because he does crazy shit like work 35 days in a row when he’s only supposed to work 14 just to make sure all our bills are paid and we have savings because I’m too crippled to work at all right now.

44. What was your favorite bedtime story as a child? I didn’t get bedtime stories.

45. You’re walking down the street, you come across a burning building. A woman says her baby is trapped inside, what would you do? I am literally capable of doing nothing, except maybe let her use my phone to call 911 if she hasn’t already.

46. If you could choose the future profession of your son or daughter, would you? No. I can’t even choose my own profession.

47. What was your best experience on drugs or alcohol? Idk about best but my most recent one was pretty good. I hadn’t had alcohol in over a year but a few weeks ago my sister turned 21 and we had family game night at my parents’ house so I got a little buzzed on some grapefruit White Claws and for about four hours I wasn’t in physical pain. Plus we all had a really good time just hanging out and playing games and everybody got along. That has 100% never happened in my family before. Also the last time I smoked weed, which was MANY years ago, like 6 or 7, it had the same effect and reduced my joint pain.

48. What was your worst experience on drugs or alcohol? Worst with drugs was the night I smoked an entire joint just in my living room alone and it must have been strong shit because I threw up immediately. Worst experience drinking was probably all of 2010.

50. As you’re walking down the street you find a suitcase full of money sitting next to a parked car, would you take it? Probs I’m desperate and not that great of a person.

51. If you found that a close friend has AIDS, would you still hang out with them? Yes? WTF kind of question is that? It’s 2019, AIDS isn’t cooties.

52. In front of you are 10 pistols, 5 of which are loaded. If you survive you’d receive 100 million dollars. Would you be willing to place 1 to your head and pull the trigger? Depends what kind of pistol. If it’s a revolver you can see the rounds in the barrel. 

53. How old were you when you lost your virginity? 20.

54. Do you believe in ghosts, werewolves or vampires? Nope. Well I still haven’t ruled out ghosts but I also know how to dispatch them so.

55. If you could live forever, would you want to? HELL naw.

56. Which fictional movie character most resembles who you are? Janice Ian.

57. If you could go back in time, which time period would you visit? We love a renaissance.

58. If they were to televise a live execution, would you watch it? Probably.

59. If you could be the president of the USA, would you be willing to do it? Not even for like a day.

60. If you could choose the sex of your unborn child, would you want to? Yes. I want a girl. Come for me.

61. Would you rather live longer or be wealthy? I want that money beech.

[hudsonespie]

Industry Dialogue Helps Sustain Antarctica's Krill Fishery

[By David Adam]

At the height of the Cold War, a hungry Soviet Union launched an unlikely strategy to reduce its reliance on grain imports from the West: the superpower despatched hundreds of fishing boats to Antarctica and told them to come back with krill.

Krill – small crustaceans related to the prawn and lobster – do not carry much meat on a single body. But added together, the world’s krill population weighs in at between 300 and 500 million tonnes. Beyond single-celled organisms like bacteria and viruses, the hundreds of trillions of krill in our oceans represent the greatest biomass of any wild animal on the planet.

With little competition, the Russian vessels netted as much of this bounty as they could carry and returned to the motherland, where Soviet scientists mashed up the protein-rich creatures into a nutritious paste called Okean. Citizens were expected to mix it into their vegetables and soups. British officials got hold of some in 1973 and reported its taste as “very pleasant”. But the idea never really caught on and, by the 1980s, the Soviets were turning much of the krill they caught into animal feed.

By the early 1990s, of course, the Soviet Union – and its appetite for Okean – were no more. Left undisturbed, the krill were free to swim and drift around Antarctic waters, where they help feed other kinds of life – they serve as an important prey species for the unique region’s penguins, seabirds, seals, fish and whales.

“I am a little bit frightened about the local effects of the increasing fishing effort because the fishery is nowadays very concentrated in space and time,” says Bettina Meyer, a krill researcher at the Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research in Bremerhaven, Germany. “Due to the very high level of krill biomass that we currently have, and the krill management measures in place, we are not in big danger. But we do have to keep a very, very careful eye on it.”

Antarctic krill

Several different species of krill are found across the world’s oceans, but the Antarctic variety (Euphausia superba) is by far the plumpest and so the most valuable catch. Often found in massive swarms, which can number millions of animals and stretch for several miles of ocean, Antarctic krill haven’t been routinely studied in all seasons over the years, and scientists don’t understand some key features of their life cycle. That can make it difficult to predict their numbers and distribution from year to year, as well as the impact of fishing them in the era of accelerating climate change.

Krill abundance in some regions is known to fluctuate greatly, but the reasons for this aren’t clear. Another issue not understood fully is population dynamics: how many mature krill need to spawn to provide enough offspring to keep numbers sufficiently high. Finally, little is known about where the young krill migrate to in their first year of life.

These uncertainties help to explain why researchers are cautious about judging the possible impact from the fishing industry, Meyer says.

“We have a lot of knowledge gaps,” she says. “When you compare for example the maps of distribution of the krill larvae to the distribution of the entire population, then it might be that only a small proportion is responsible for replenishing the entire population.”

In other words, although a relatively small proportion of krill are pulled from the Southern Ocean each year, if those catches happened to target breeding adults, then such fishing could have an oversized impact.

Officially that should not happen. The Antarctic krill fishery is well managed and branded as sustainable. And unlike some contested areas around the world, scientists, conservationists and the fishing industry there enjoy a largely co-operative and constructive relationship. “I think the relationship is very friendly and also very open,” Meyer says.

CCAMLR

Along with other species, the Antarctic krill fishery is managed by the Commission for the Conservation of Antarctic Marine Living Resources (CCAMLR), made up from a group of 26 nations (including the European Union) with an interest in the region. The commission monitors stocks, assesses the health of the fishery and sets limits on how much krill can be taken each year.

CCAMLR splits the waters surrounding Antarctica into three large areas. The limits on fishing are based on an estimate made in 2010 that krill stocks in one of these large areas – Area 48 on the Atlantic side of the continent – totalled 60.3 million tonnes. This allowed the commission to set an absolute cap on catches – called the “precautionary catch limit” – of 5.61 million tonnes each year. The actual annual take is nowhere near that figure. Fishing is only allowed in seven “sub-areas” and divisions, each of which have their own caps – added together, the total catch from each of these sub-areas cannot exceed 620,000 tonnes – the so-called “trigger level”. However, at present, fishing is only taking place in four of the sub-areas, all in Area 48. The most popular of these, sub-area 48.1 around the Antarctic peninsula, has an annual catch limit of just 155,000 tonnes.

Source: CCAMLR (Graphic: Manuel Bortoletti / China Dialogue Ocean)

In 2020, a total of 450,781 tonnes of krill were taken across the sector, a figure that has doubled in the last five years but is still comfortably below the trigger level. So, all is good? Not necessarily.

Fishery management strategies that permit what look like relatively low catch levels across large regions could still prove to be unsustainable, says Philip Trathan, head of conservation biology at the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, the United Kingdom. “It matters where you take it from,” he says. “Say for the sake of argument you are allowed to take 100 tonnes from a defined area. That limit is set with an assumption you are going to take it evenly from across that area. But you’re not going to do that. You’re going to go to the areas where it’s most predictable and most profitable. And those are probably also the regions where the penguins, seals and whales go as well.”

In other words, the fishing industry could be taking their permitted and precautionary amounts of krill out of the mouths of predators that rely on them. That’s important because rises and falls in krill population from year to year, including those influenced by fishing, are believed to have a knock-on effect on the predators that eat them – notably penguins. A 2020 study of penguin colonies in the South Shetland islands, which lie about 120 kilometres north of the Antarctic peninsula, suggested a link between levels of krill fishing in surrounding waters and declining health of the birds.

Using decades of data going back to the 1980s, the research, led by George Watters at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in La Jolla, California, found that when local fishing catches of krill spiked, penguins took longer to find food and had fewer healthy chicks.

One problem with the current fishery management approach, Trathan says, is that it sets up an annual free-for-all that pits fishing vessel against fishing vessel to scoop up as much krill in the shortest time possible. For example, this year the cap for zone 48.1 was reached in early June, so the area is now closed until December. Such an “Olympic-style” management plan can force fishing activity into smaller areas and shorter fishing seasons.

Many scientists and conservation groups would like to see tighter controls on exactly where and when the krill can be caught. Those measures could include dividing the existing sub-areas into smaller zones, each of which would then be allocated its own (smaller) maximum take.

Some countries have gone further and backed the establishment of new marine protected areas, including one around the Antarctic peninsula, which could lead to stricter controls and even outright bans on krill fishing in the most sensitive regions.

Keen to avoid such regulation, the krill fishers have taken steps to show they can manage the threat themselves. In December last year, an industry group called the Association of Responsible Krill Harvesting Companies voluntarily suspended fishing close to three penguin colonies on the Antarctic peninsula for 12 months. This adds to a series of existing buffer zones the industry has established around penguin colonies in which local krill fishing is halted during the incubation and chick-rearing season.

CCAMLR is due to discuss possible new restrictions in November, but Trathan, who sits on the commission’s scientific advisory group, says it’s unlikely much progress will be made. “I think it’s a tall order and it sort of depends on the process as well as the science, making sure that we’ve got enough time to discuss it in the detail that is needed.”

The current focus is on keeping the existing protection in place. The management system that divides the trigger-level catch limit between the seven sub-areas and divisions is due to expire this year. If not renewed, fishers would technically be able to take up to 620,000 tonnes of krill from wherever they liked: including the sensitive waters around the peninsula.

Who fishes?

Krill fishing is currently dominated by Norway. Helped by technology that continuously pumps the contents of submerged nets onboard, Norwegian vessels bagged almost 250,000 tonnes last year, which is more than double its nearest competitor. Chile, South Korea and Ukraine also take significant amounts of krill. An important new player is China. The country landed almost 120,000 tonnes of krill last year (up from 41,000 in 2018 and 50,000 in 2019).

“[Krill fishing] fits with the Chinese policy to develop its distant water fishing fleet,” says Nengye Liu, director of the Centre for Environmental Law at Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia. The gap between the number of krill allowed to be caught and the number actually caught is of interest to Chinese policymakers as having potential to grow or even just maintain that fleet."

Climate change

As nations target increased krill catches in coming years, scientists are anxious about another possible pressure on stocks. A cold-water species, researchers aren’t sure how the crustaceans will manage as the waters around Antarctica steadily warm.

“Change will happen, but it will happen slowly, so maybe they will be able to adapt. We don’t know,” says Katharina Michael, a krill researcher at the University of Oldenburg in Germany.

To try to find out, Michael and her colleagues caught krill off the Antarctic coast and put them in giant tanks filled with different temperature seawater for eight months. They found that krill responded differently when the water was 3.5C or higher: their metabolism significantly increased, they used more oxygen and they grew to be significantly smaller.

“There is an increased energy demand, which may have implications for long-term processes. So, energy might be taken away from growth and reproduction,” Michael says. “We don’t know that yet. We have to investigate. But there is something going on.” Water temperature in krill habitats changes a lot with the seasons and weather, but currently range from -1.8C to 5.5C.

The Alfred Wegener Institute’s Meyer says the possible effects of warmer temperatures on krill body size is something that should be closely monitored in the future, along with other important information such as the distribution and density of krill stocks.

To gather real-world data, Meyer hopes to take advantage of the currently good relations between krill researchers and krill fishers. With limited slots available aboard scientific research ships and field stations, Meyer hopes that more fishing vessels could help, either by hosting scientists or by taking samples themselves.

With more reliable measurements, the management system could be made more responsive, with catch limits tightened or relaxed from year to year to match the real-world state of the fishery. “What CCAMLR needs to find is a way to reduce the risks to predators like penguins, seals and whales, while recognising that fishing is allowed,” Trathan says. “But ultimately the more krill you take out the more likely you are to see an effect.”

David Adam is a freelance journalist based near London.

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[glass-kilimanjaro]

Neil DeGrasse Tyson

Tyson was born in Manhattan as the second of three children, into a family living in the Bronx.[3] His mother, Sunchita Maria Tyson (née Feliciano; 1928 -), was a gerontologist for the U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare, and is of Puerto Rican descent.[4] His African-American father, Cyril deGrasse Tyson (1927–2016), was a sociologist, human resource commissioner for New York City mayor John Lindsay, and the first Director of Harlem Youth Opportunities Unlimited.[5][6] Tyson has two siblings: Stephen Joseph Tyson and Lynn Antipas Tyson.[5] Tyson's middle name, deGrasse, is from the maiden name of his paternal grandmother, who was born as Altima de Grasse in the British West Indies island of Nevis.[7]

Tyson grew up in the Castle Hill neighborhood of the Bronx, and later in Riverdale.[8] From kindergarten throughout high school, Tyson attended public schools in the Bronx: P.S. 36, P.S. 81, the Riverdale Kingsbridge Academy (then called "P.S. 141"), and The Bronx High School of Science (1972–1976) where he was captain of the wrestling team and editor-in-chief of the Physical Science Journal.[9][10] His interest in astronomy began at the age of nine after visiting the sky theater of the Hayden Planetarium.[11] He recalled that "so strong was that imprint [of the night sky] that I'm certain that I had no choice in the matter, that in fact, the universe called me."[12] During high school, Tyson attended astronomy courses offered by the Hayden Planetarium, which he called "the most formative period" of his life. He credited Dr. Mark Chartrand III, director of the planetarium at the time, as his "first intellectual role model" and his enthusiastic teaching style mixed with humor inspired Tyson to communicate the universe to others the way he did.[13]

Tyson obsessively studied astronomy in his teen years, and eventually even gained some fame in the astronomy community by giving lectures on the subject at the age of fifteen.[14] Astronomer Carl Sagan, who was a faculty member at Cornell University, tried to recruit Tyson to Cornell for undergraduate studies.[6] In his book, The Sky Is Not the Limit, Tyson wrote:

My letter of application had been dripping with an interest in the universe. The admission office, unbeknownst to me, had forwarded my application to Carl Sagan's attention. Within weeks, I received a personal letter...[15]

Tyson revisited this moment on his first episode of Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey. Pulling out a 1975 calendar belonging to the famous astronomer, he found the day Sagan invited the 17-year-old to spend a day in Ithaca. Sagan had offered to put him up for the night if his bus back to the Bronx did not come. Tyson said, "I already knew I wanted to become a scientist. But that afternoon, I learned from Carl the kind of person I wanted to become."[16][17]

Tyson chose to attend Harvard where he majored in physics and lived in Currier House. He was a member of the crew team during his freshman year, but returned to wrestling, lettering in his senior year. He was also active in dance, in styles including jazz, ballet, Afro-Caribbean, and Latin Ballroom.[18]

Tyson hosting the 40th anniversary celebration of

Apollo 11

at the

National Air and Space Museum

in Washington, July 2009

Tyson earned an AB degree in physics at Harvard College in 1980 and then began his graduate work at the University of Texas at Austin,[19] from which he received an MA degree in astronomy in 1983. By his own account, he did not spend as much time in the research lab as he should have. His professors encouraged him to consider alternative careers and the committee for his doctoral dissertation was dissolved, ending his pursuit of a doctorate from the University of Texas.[20]

Tyson was a lecturer in astronomy at the University of Maryland from 1986 to 1987[21] and in 1988, he was accepted into the astronomy graduate program at Columbia University, where he earned an MPhil degree in astrophysics in 1989, and a PhD degree in astrophysics in 1991[22] under the supervision of Professor R. Michael Rich. Rich obtained funding to support Tyson's doctoral research from NASA and the ARCS foundation[23] enabling Tyson to attend international meetings in Italy, Switzerland, Chile, and South Africa[21] and to hire students to help him with data reduction.[24] In the course of his thesis work, he observed using the 0.91 m telescope at the Cerro Tololo Inter-American Observatory in Chile, where he obtained images for the Calán/Tololo Supernova Survey[25][26][27] helping to further their work in establishing Type Ia supernovae as standard candles.

During his thesis research at Columbia University, Tyson became acquainted with Professor David Spergel at Princeton University, who visited Columbia University in the course of collaborating with his thesis advisor on the Galactic bulge[28][29][30] typically found in spiral galaxies.

Career

Tyson with students at the 2007

American Astronomical Society

conference

Tyson's research has focused on observations in cosmology, stellar evolution, galactic astronomy, bulges, and stellar formation. He has held numerous positions at institutions including the University of Maryland, Princeton University, the American Museum of Natural History, and the Hayden Planetarium.

In 1994, Tyson joined the Hayden Planetarium as a staff scientist while he was a research affiliate in Princeton University. He became acting director of the planetarium in June 1995 and was appointed director in 1996.[31] As director, he oversaw the planetarium's $210 million reconstruction project, which was completed in 2000. Upon being asked for his thoughts on becoming director, Tyson said "when I was a kid... there were scientists and educators on the staff at the Hayden Planetarium... who invested their time and energy in my enlightenment... and I've never forgotten that. And to end up back there as its director, I feel this deep sense of duty, that I serve in the same capacity for people who come through the facility today, that others served for me".[32]

Tyson has written a number of popular books on astronomy. In 1995, he began to write the "Universe" column for Natural History magazine. In a column he authored for a special edition of the magazine, called "City of Stars", in 2002, Tyson popularized the term "Manhattanhenge" to describe the two days annually on which the evening sun aligns with the street grid in Manhattan, making the sunset visible along unobstructed side streets. He had coined the term in 1996, inspired by how the phenomenon recalls the sun's solstice alignment with the Stonehenge monument in England.[33] Tyson's column also influenced his work as a professor with The Great Courses.[34]

In 2001, U.S. President George W. Bush appointed Tyson to serve on the Commission on the Future of the United States Aerospace Industry and in 2004 to serve on the President's Commission on Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy, the latter better known as the "Moon, Mars, and Beyond" commission. Soon afterward, he was awarded the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal, the highest civilian honor bestowed by NASA.[35]

Tyson in December 2011 at a conference marking 1,000 days after the launch of the spacecraft

Kepler

In 2004, Tyson hosted the four-part Origins miniseries of the PBS Nova series,[36] and, with Donald Goldsmith, co-authored the companion volume for this series, Origins: Fourteen Billion Years Of Cosmic Evolution.[37] He again collaborated with Goldsmith as the narrator on the documentary 400 Years of the Telescope, which premiered on PBS in April 2009.[38]

As director of the Hayden Planetarium, Tyson bucked traditional thinking in order to keep Pluto from being referred to as the ninth planet in exhibits at the center. Tyson has explained that he wanted to look at commonalities between objects, grouping the terrestrial planets together, the gas giants together, and Pluto with like objects, and to get away from simply counting the planets. He has stated on The Colbert Report, The Daily Show, and BBC Horizon that this decision has resulted in large amounts of hate mail, much of it from children.[39] In 2006, the International Astronomical Union (IAU) confirmed this assessment by changing Pluto to the dwarf planet classification.

Tyson recounted the heated online debate on the Cambridge Conference Network (CCNet), a "widely read, UK-based Internet chat group", following Benny Peiser's renewed call for reclassification of Pluto's status.[40] Peiser's entry, in which he posted articles from the AP and The Boston Globe, spawned from The New York Times's article entitled "Pluto's Not a Planet? Only in New York".[41][42]

Tyson has been vice-president, president, and chairman of the board of the Planetary Society. He was also the host of the PBS program Nova ScienceNow until 2011.[43] He attended and was a speaker at the Beyond Belief: Science, Religion, Reason and Survival symposium in November 2006. In 2007, Tyson was chosen to be a regular on The History Channel's popular series The Universe.[citation needed]

Tyson promoting the

Cosmos

TV series in Australia for National Geographic, 2014

In May 2009, Tyson launched a one-hour radio talk show called StarTalk, which he co-hosted with comedian Lynne Koplitz. The show was syndicated on Sunday afternoons on KTLK AM in Los Angeles and WHFS in Washington DC. The show lasted for thirteen weeks, but was resurrected in December 2010 and then, co-hosted with comedians Chuck Nice and Leighann Lord instead of Koplitz. Guests range from colleagues in science to celebrities such as GZA, Wil Wheaton, Sarah Silverman, and Bill Maher. The show is available via the Internet through a live stream or in the form of a podcast.[44]

In April 2011, Tyson was the keynote speaker at the 93rd International Convention of the Phi Theta Kappa International Honor Society of the Two-year School. He and James Randi delivered a lecture entitled Skepticism, which related directly with the convention's theme of The Democratization of Information: Power, Peril, and Promise.[45]

In 2012, Tyson announced that he would appear in a YouTube series based on his radio show StarTalk. A premiere date for the show has not been announced, but it will be distributed on the Nerdist YouTube Channel.[46] On February 28, 2014, Tyson was a celebrity guest at the White House Student Film Festival.[47]

In 2014, Tyson helped revive Carl Sagan's Cosmos: A Personal Voyage television series, presenting Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey on both FOX and the National Geographic Channel. Thirteen episodes were aired in the first season, and Tyson has stated that if a second season were produced, he would pass the role of host to someone else in the science world.[48][49] In early January, 2018, it was announced that a second season of Cosmos was in production, and that Tyson would once again act as host.[50]

On April 20, 2015, Tyson began hosting a late-night talk show entitled StarTalk on the National Geographic Channel, where Tyson interviews pop culture celebrities and asks them about their life experiences with science.[51]

Tyson is co-developing a sandbox video game with Whatnot Entertainment, Neil deGrasse Tyson Presents: Space Odyssey, which aims to help provide players with a realistic simulation of developing a space-faring culture, incorporating educational materials about space and technology. The game was anticipated for release in 2018.[52]

Views

Spirituality[A] most important feature is the analysis of the information that comes your way. And that's what I don't see enough of in this world. There's a level of gullibility that leaves people susceptible to being taken advantage of. I see science literacy as kind of a vaccine against charlatans who would try to exploit your ignorance.

— Neil deGrasse Tyson, from a transcript of an interview by Roger Bingham on The Science Network[53][54]

Tyson has written and broadcast extensively about his views of science, spirituality, and the spirituality of science, including the essays "The Perimeter of Ignorance"[55] and "Holy Wars",[56] both appearing in Natural History magazine and the 2006 Beyond Belief workshop. In an interview with comedian Paul Mecurio, Tyson offered his definition of spirituality: "For me, when I say spiritual, I’m referring to a feeling you would have that connects you to the universe in a way that it may defy simple vocabulary. We think about the universe as an intellectual playground, which it surely is, but the moment you learn something that touches an emotion rather than just something intellectual, I would call that a spiritual encounter with the universe."[57] Tyson has argued that many great historical scientists' belief in intelligent design limited their scientific inquiries, to the detriment of the advance of scientific knowledge.[56][58]

When asked during a question session at the University at Buffalo if he believed in a higher power, Tyson responded: "Every account of a higher power that I've seen described, of all religions that I've seen, include many statements with regard to the benevolence of that power. When I look at the universe and all the ways the universe wants to kill us, I find it hard to reconcile that with statements of beneficence."[59][60]:341 In an interview with Big Think, Tyson said, "So, what people are really after is what is my stance on religion or spirituality or God, and I would say if I find a word that came closest, it would be 'agnostic' ... at the end of the day I'd rather not be any category at all."[61] Additionally, in the same interview with Big Think, Tyson mentioned that he edited Wikipedia's entry on him to include the fact that he is an agnostic:

I'm constantly claimed by atheists. I find this intriguing. In fact, on my Wiki page – I didn't create the Wiki page, others did, and I'm flattered that people cared enough about my life to assemble it – and it said "Neil deGrasse Tyson is an atheist." I said, "Well that's not really true." I said, "Neil deGrasse Tyson is an agnostic." I went back a week later, it said "Neil deGrasse Tyson is an atheist" again – within a week! – and I said, "What's up with that?" and I said "Alright, I have to word it a little differently." So I said, okay "Neil deGrasse Tyson, widely claimed by atheists, is actually an agnostic."[61]

During the interview "Called by the Universe: A Conversation with Neil deGrasse Tyson" in 2009, Tyson said: "I can't agree to the claims by atheists that I'm one of that community. I don't have the time, energy, interest of conducting myself that way... I'm not trying to convert people. I don't care."[62]

Tyson in conversation with

Richard Dawkins

at Howard University, 2010

In March 2014, philosopher and secularism proponent Massimo Pigliucci asked Tyson "What is it you think about God?" Tyson replied "I remain unconvinced by any claims anyone has ever made about the existence or the power of a divine force operating in the universe." Pigliucci then asked him why he expressed discomfort with the label "atheist" in his Big Think video. Tyson replied by reiterating his dislike for one-word labels, saying "That's what adjectives are for. What kind of atheist are you? Are you an ardent atheist? Are you a passive atheist? An apathetic atheist? Do you rally, or do you just not even care? So I'd be on the 'I really don't care' side of that, if you had to find adjectives to put in front of the word 'atheist'." Pigliucci contrasted Tyson with scientist Richard Dawkins: "[Dawkins] really does consider, at this point, himself to be an atheist activist. You very clearly made the point that you are not." Tyson replied: "I completely respect that activity. He's fulfilling a really important role out there."[63]

Tyson has spoken about philosophy on numerous occasions. In March 2014, during an episode of The Nerdist Podcast, he stated that philosophy is "useless" and that a philosophy major "can really mess you up",[64] which was met with disapproval.[65][66][67][68] The philosopher Massimo Pigliucci later criticized him for "dismiss[ing] philosophy as a useless enterprise".[69]

Race and social justice

In an undated interview at Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Tyson talked about being black and one of the most visible and well-known scientists in the world. He told a story about being interviewed about a plasma burst from the sun on a local Fox affiliate in 1989. "I'd never before in my life seen an interview with a black person on television for expertise that had nothing to do with being black. And at that point, I realized that one of the last stereotypes that prevailed among people who carry stereotypes is that, sort of, black people are somehow dumb. I wondered, maybe ... that's a way to undermine this sort of, this stereotype that prevailed about who's smart and who's dumb. I said to myself, 'I just have to be visible, or others like me, in that situation.' That would have a greater force on society than anything else I could imagine."[70][71]

In 2005, at a conference at the National Academy of Sciences, Tyson responded to a question about whether genetic differences might keep women from working as scientists. He said that his goal to become an astrophysicist was "...hands down the path of most resistance through the forces ... of society". He continued: "My life experience tells me, when you don’t find blacks in the sciences, when you don’t find women in the sciences, I know these forces are real and I had to survive them in order to get where I am today. So before we start talking about genetic differences, you gotta come up with a system where there’s equal opportunity. Then we can start having that conversation."[72]

In a 2014 interview with Grantland, Tyson said that he related his experience on that 2005 panel in an effort to make the point that the scientific question about genetic differences can't be answered until the social barriers are dismantled. "I'm saying before you even have that conversation, you have to be really sure that access to opportunity has been level." In that same interview, Tyson said that race is not a part of the point he is trying to make in his career or with his life. According to Tyson, "[T]hat then becomes the point of people's understanding of me, rather than the astrophysics. So it's a failed educational step for that to be the case. If you end up being distracted by that and not [getting] the message." He purposefully no longer speaks publicly about race. "I don't give talks on it. I don't even give Black History Month talks. I decline every single one of them. In fact, since 1993, I've declined every interview that has my being black as a premise of the interview."[73]

NASA

Tyson,

Bill Nye

, and U.S. President

Barack Obama

take a

selfie

at the

White House

, 2014

Tyson is an advocate for expanding the operations of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Arguing that "the most powerful agency on the dreams of a nation is currently underfunded to do what it needs to be doing".[74] Tyson has suggested that the general public has a tendency to overestimate how much revenue is allocated to the space agency. At a March 2010 address, referencing the proportion of tax revenue spent on NASA, he stated, "By the way, how much does NASA cost? It's a half a penny on the dollar. Did you know that? The people are saying, 'Why are we spending money up there...' I ask them, 'How much do you think we're spending?' They say 'five cents, ten cents on a dollar.' It's a half a penny."[74]

In March 2012, Tyson testified before the United States Senate Science Committee, stating that:

Right now, NASA's annual budget is half a penny on your tax dollar. For twice that—a penny on a dollar—we can transform the country from a sullen, dispirited nation, weary of economic struggle, to one where it has reclaimed its 20th century birthright to dream of tomorrow.[75][76]

Inspired by Tyson's advocacy and remarks, Penny4NASA, a campaign of the Space Advocates nonprofit,[77] was founded in 2012 by John Zeller and advocates the doubling of NASA's budget to one percent of the federal budget.[78]

In his book Space Chronicles: Facing the Ultimate Frontier Tyson argues that large and ambitious space exploration projects, like getting humans to Mars, will probably require some sort of military or economic driver in order to get the appropriate funding from the United States federal government.[79]

Media appearances

Neil deGrasse Tyson was keynote speaker at

TAM6

of the

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As a science communicator, Tyson regularly appears on television, radio, and various other media outlets. He has been a regular guest on The Colbert Report, and host Stephen Colbert refers to him in his comedic book I Am America (And So Can You!), noting in his chapter on scientists that most scientists are "decent, well-intentioned people", but, presumably tongue-in-cheek, that "Neil DeGrasse [sic] Tyson is an absolute monster."[80] He has appeared numerous times on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. He has made appearances on Late Night with Conan O'Brien, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, and The Rachel Maddow Show.[81] He served as one of the central interviewees on the various episodes of the History Channel science program, The Universe. Tyson participated on the NPR radio quiz program Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! in 2007 and 2015.[82] He has appeared several times on Real Time with Bill Maher, and he was also featured on an episode of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? as the ask-the-expert lifeline.[83] He has spoken numerous times on the Philadelphia morning show, Preston and Steve, on 93.3 WMMR, as well as on SiriusXM's Ron and Fez and The Opie and Anthony Show.

Tyson has been featured as a guest interviewee on The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, Radiolab, Skepticality, and The Joe Rogan Experience podcasts and has been in several of the Symphony of Science videos.[84][85]

Tyson lived near the World Trade Center and was an eyewitness to the September 11, 2001 attacks. He wrote a widely circulated letter on what he saw.[86] Footage he filmed on the day was included in the 2008 documentary film 102 Minutes That Changed America.[87]

In 2007, Tyson was the keynote speaker during the dedication ceremony of Deerfield Academy's new science center, the Koch Center, named for David H. Koch '59. He emphasized the impact science will have on the twenty-first century, as well as explaining that investments into science may be costly, but their returns in the form of knowledge gained and piquing interest is invaluable. Tyson has also appeared as the keynote speaker at The Amazing Meeting, a science and skepticism conference hosted by the James Randi Educational Foundation.[88]

Tyson made a guest appearance as a version of himself in the episode "Brain Storm" of Stargate Atlantis[89] alongside Bill Nye and in the episode "The Apology Insufficiency" of The Big Bang Theory.[90] Archive footage of him is used in the film Europa Report. Tyson also made an appearance in an episode of Martha Speaks as himself.[91]

2010 Space Conference group portrait: Tyson with fellow television personality and science educator

Bill Nye

In a May 2011 StarTalk Radio show, The Political Science of the Daily Show, Tyson said he donates all income earned as a guest speaker.[92]

Tyson is a frequent participant in the website Reddit's AMAs (Ask Me Anythings) where he is responsible for three of the top ten most popular AMAs of all time.[93]

In Action Comics #14 (January 2013), which was published November 7, 2012, Tyson appears in the story, in which he determines that Superman's home planet, Krypton, orbited the red dwarf LHS 2520 in the constellation Corvus 27.1 lightyears from Earth. Tyson assisted DC Comics in selecting a real-life star that would be an appropriate parent star to Krypton, and picked Corvus, which is Latin for "Crow",[94][95] and which is the mascot of Superman's high school, the Smallville Crows.[96][97] Tyson also had a minor appearance as himself in the 2016 film Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.[98]

In May 2013, the Science Laureates of the United States Act of 2013 (H.R. 1891; 113th Congress) was introduced into Congress. Neil deGrasse Tyson was listed by at least two commentators as a possible nominee for the position of Science Laureate, if the act were to pass.[99][100] On March 8, 2014, Tyson made a SXSW Interactive keynote presentation at the Austin Convention Center.[101]

On June 3, 2014, Tyson co-reviewed Gravity in a CinemaSins episode.[102] He made two more appearances with CinemaSins, co-reviewing Interstellar on September 29, 2015,[103] and The Martian on March 31, 2016.[104]

In 2016, Tyson narrated and was a script supervisor for the science documentary, Food Evolution, directed by Academy Award nominated director Scott Hamilton Kennedy.[105] In the same year, Tyson made a guest appearance on the Avenged Sevenfold album The Stage, where he delivered a monolog on the track "Exist".[106] In 2017, Tyson appeared on Logic's album Everybody as God, uncredited on various tracks, and credited on the song "AfricAryaN"[107] as well as on "The Moon" on Musiq Soulchild's album Feel the Real.[108]

In 2018, Tyson made a guest appearance on The Big Bang Theory as himself, together with fellow scientist Bill Nye, in the first episode of the show's final season ("The Conjugal Configuration").[109

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EMILY MCCAUSLAND “TEENAGE DIRTBAG”

CHARACTERS: The Streets: Charlotte May Jane Louisa Street (born 30 July 1999) Maria May Jane Street (born 24 March 1973) Francesca Louisa Taylor née Street (born 3 August 1969) Cody Jake James (born 2 March 1994) Lily Elizabeth Street (born 21 August 2010) Max James Street (born 18 October 2013) The Deans: Kayla Thomas née Dean (born 30 July 1967) Jerome Dean (born 21 August 1972) The Greys/Spencers: Karl Spencer Daphne Grey née Merrimack, previously Spencer Alexander Edward Grey Logan Christopher Spencer (born 11 January 1971) Danielle Spencer née Dean (born 4 October 1974) Terri Amber Spencer (born 8 October 1993) Maxxi Lola Spencer (born 8 October 1993) Robbie James Spencer (born 21 November 1997) Evan Freddie Spencer (born 2 February 2000) Lillie Alexia Spencer (born 2 August 1972) Mark Summers Taylor Joanne Summers (born 2 December 1993) Haiden Jennifer Summers (born 1 July 1996) Rylee Felicia Summers (born 12 April 2002) Tessa Nicole Grey (born 3 June 1983) Kezia Grey (born 20 November 2000) Axle Max Grey (born 22 September 1988) Polly Anna Maisie Grey née Thomas (born 10 November 1991) Jaydon James Grey (born 10 April 2008) Tristan Mason Grey (born 21 May 2010) The Evertons: Daniel Thomas “Danny” Everton (born 5 May 1971) Rebecca Kelly “Becky” Lloyd (born 11 September 1972) Thomas Daniel “Tom” Everton (born 17 July 1992) Tiffani Rebecca Everton (born 27 March 1994) Ethan James Everton (born 15 June 1998) Elliott Michael Everton (born 15 June 1998) Maya Kelly Everton (born 11 July 2002) The Lyles: Annalise Lily “Annie” Lyle (born 21 December 1991) Elizabeth Annabelle Lyle (born 21 June 1996) Madeleine Jennifer Lyle (born 26 March 1997) The Hutches: Brett Charlie Hutch (born 21 December 1987) Thomas Jacob Hutch (born 15 December 1994) Nathaniel Mason “Nate” Hutch (born 15 November 1996) Others: Matt Cooper Jake Mitchell Ben Macaulay Amy Macaulay Nicole Harry Shields Holly Shields Shaun Brandon Thomson Nathan Thomson Nicola Thomson Lauren Mitchell Jade Kerri Ann Gemma Lottie Young Cheyenne Young Jazia Jennifer Danielle Olivia Porsche Piper Drew Zack Drew Denny Drew Anita Mitchell Maria Mitchell Charlie Thomson SCENE ONE. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. V.O. AUGUST 1, 2017. ARCHIVE FOOTAGE OF CHARLOTTE GROWING UP AND CHARACTERS SHOWN AS THEY ARE NAMED. V.O. CHARLOTTE. I’m eighteen-year-old CHARLOTTE STREET, born in Manchester, Lancashire, to SHONNÉ SHIELDS and JEROME DEAN. My mum had previously been married, when she was 20-years-old, but the marriage lasted just 5 years and they divorced at age 25. She had a son, twenty-four-year-old CODY, with her ex-husband, who grew up in Liverpool with his father and I have only ever met him three times. My father was arrested and jailed before I was born, and so my mum cut him off for good and I have no ties to him. I was told I had the cancer gene from my father’s side and was diagnosed in 2012, after I turned 12, and won my battle in 2013 when I was 13. Mum’s parents LEON and LIZZIE were not in the best of health at this point and GRAMPA LEON had to be taken into hospital; NANA LIZZIE was diagnosed as being a dementia patient and taken into a care home almost immediately. They are progressing. I have five cousins: POLLY (born 10 November 1991, to Dad’s sister KAYLA), identical twin sisters TERRI and MAXXI, and ROBBIE and EVAN (born to Mum’s sister DANIELLE). POLLY had two sons, JAYDON and TRISTAN, with husband AXLE GREY. AXLE is now a single father, as POLLY sadly passed away on 10 January 2012. She also had the cancer gene. Axle is the son of DAPHNE GREY, the management at the studio where POLLY and I were a music duo, POLLY providing vocals and keyboard, and myself guitar and backing vocals. I still get money from sales. Our career lasted from September two-thousand-nine (when I was nine and POLLY eighteen) until January two-thousand-twelve (when POLLY was twenty and me twelve). I now work for the studio freelance. I live in a two bed flat with my mother and Aunt Francesca. But spend the majority of my time with my close friends: identical twins ETHAN and ELLIOTT EVERTON, sisters ELIZABETH and MADDIE LYLE, and TOM HUTCH, Elizabeth’s long-term on-again-off-again boyfriend. Elizabeth and Tom have been together for years - they were first made official in December 2011, at school five years ago - but split at least three times and then got back together during that time, but they’ve been firmly back together for eight months now - since September 2016. Ethan and Maddie have been together for four years now - since 30 June 2013 - when Ethan was fifteen and Maddie fourteen. Elizabeth and Maddie have an older sister, ANNIE. Ethan and Elliott have an older brother named THOMAS, and two sisters named MAYA and TIFFANI. Tom has an older brother, BRETT and a young brother NATE. Brett has a daughter named SOFIA with a relative of mine, KAT. Grampa Leon is Kat’s Great-Uncle. AUNT DANIELLE works as the producer of a TV series filmed in front of a live studio audience in Manchester. As soon as I turned 16, I started looking for jobs and got one working in a shop during the summer holidays. They kept me on because they thought I was doing well. But I left in late-August because she was offered another job in advertising. Then in early-September I was a shop assistant for a month before starting my job at as a waitress in a café earlier last month: November. And then I was offered to write and provide guitar for other artists/bands at the studio I had previously worked for. I also play basketball, football, volunteers at the library and attended evening classes in English, Maths and History as I never got to finish school because of my maternal grandparents’ illnesses. And I visit my maternal grandparents often, frequently changing bed sheets at the different locations and bringing them treats and just generally helping out. I started doing some charity work in the summer, gaining permission for use at the community centre; I am using the time slots for young people to sign up and do different activities such as sports, cooking, school tutoring and more, in an attempt to reduce crime; if young people are occupied with something more beneficial to put their time into then they are less likely to commit crime. I also put together fundraisers every six-months-or-so in order to raise money for cancer, with activities including singing, sports, dancing, competitions and more… I have been doing this since I was thirteen and have raised up to £5,000 on these occasions. I inherited my father’s home but rent it out because I’m not ready to live alone (but still pay rent at my mother’s), and I was named on my father’s life insurance, and inherited my father’s car - which I keep in my grandparents’ double garage - as well as inheriting other aspects and property of my father’s belongings. I was recently involved in a drugs raid after being drugged and kidnapped. I was shot in the left shoulder once and stabbed in the very bottom-right of her stomach. I was also sexually assaulted by one of the dealers who wanted money for the drugs my friend had bought. I was later arrested, charged and put behind bars. After one of the dealers’ house was burned to the ground, I was arrested and charged. After serving several months in prison they found the true culprit and released me with compensation. I subsequently fell pregnant as a result of the assault but sadly lost the baby in September at just five months. I then made the decision that I needed some time away from everything, and so moved out of my mother and aunt’s. So, I was homeless for a week or two before I moved back in. I kept my job as my record was cleared after admissions were given and charges were dropped. My bedroom is a square-shape at the back of the home. The bedroom contains: an en-suite on the bottom-right of the room; a wardrobe in the top-right of the room; the bed in the top-left of the room; a bedside and one of two desks next to it, by the window; a stand with a TV on in the bottom-right corner; a round wooden table under the window containing: teddies, baskets with chocolates, sweets and cookies, glitter, candles; a guitar circle containing three guitars on stands in the middle of the room; and a keyboard against the right-side wall. This community centre; work at the café; library; Maths classes; English classes; play football; writing for the studio; basketball training; care home; studying History. I teach guitar. On my basketball team were MATT, JAKE, and siblings BEN and AMY; on my football team were NICOLE, siblings HARRY and HOLLY, and SHAUN. Since the evening classes I have become friends with siblings BRANDON, NATHAN, NICOLA, and LAUREN and JADE, especially as they all help each other during and outside their classes. At the café I often share shifts with three girls around my age named KERRI ANN, GEMMA and LOTTIE. Lottie has a younger sister named CHEYENNE, with whom I have also become quite close. At the studio I have provided guitar for a girl band consisting of members JAZIA, JENNIFER, DANIELLE, OLIVIA and PORSCHE, and solo singers PIPER DREW (through whom I also met her siblings ZACK and DENNY when they came to the studio to see her) and ANITA MITCHELL (through whom I also met her sister MARIA when she came to the studio to see Anita). I also met a guy named CHARLIE THOMSON when I was in London travelling during my music career. We have a lot in common: Charlie’s father also passed away due to cancer, and his mother is a drug user - she’s getting treatment presently. SCENE TWO. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. HOME. DAYTIME It’s Tuesday, May 2, 2017, and six-o'clock-in-the-morning so CHARLOTTE is in the flat getting ready for work and the day ahead of her. She goes to work wearing a long-sleeved black crop top and a long, brown fluffy, warm winter jacket with a fluffy white collar, white scarf, black skinny jeans, and with black trainers. She has her long straight jet-black hair down and a black headband with a cute little black bow on its side, and a small black over-the-shoulder bag. She locks the flat’s white front door and then heads for the café around the corner at 06:35. SCENE THREE. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. INT. CAFE. DAYTIME. She arrives at 06:50. In the kitchen, there is a cupboard in the top-left corner, containing lockers; CHARLOTTE opens the locker using her combination, places her bag and coat inside of it, and then gets her coat out of her bag and places it in the back pocket of her jeans, then closing the locker so it’s secure, and putting the required work apron on, which only goes on the waist, not around the neck; she ties it on so that her black crop top reveals her belly button and belly button piercing. Her manager ANA, then comes from around a corner. ANA Oh, hi, Charlotte, how are you today? CHARLOTTE I’m OK thanks, Ana, and yourself? ANA Good ta. So, if you could get some more coffee cups out of storage, refill the coffee machine, and set the buns and bread out, please. That’d be a wonderful start. CHARLOTTE Of course. By 07:45 she has finished all this, and has now taken it upon herself to clean the tables, fridge and counter rather than waiting for ANA to ask her. This is done by 08:15, and customers have started arriving for their morning coffees now, so CHARLOTTE washes her hands and puts a pair of gloves on from storage to make sandwiches. She makes around twenty sandwiches and packages them within an hour. By 09:15 she has been asked to wash up, which takes her around twenty minutes, so by 09:40 she has begun serving customers. By 10:30, after forty minutes of serving, she is due a break and so takes a croissant from the tray on the counter, then making herself a coffee and placing the money in the till; steps out the back and then eats the croissant, getting out a cigarette and lighter along with her phone, holding the coffee and cigarette in one hand and scrolling through her phone with the other. At 10:40 she goes to the staff loo just behind the kitchen, and then heads back in for work by 10:45. Ana then asks her if she’ll restock the fridge while ANA serves. And finally, at 11:15, she’s asked to serve again for the last 45 minutes of her shift. And by 12:00 she’s back at her locker and waving goodbye to ANA. SCENE FOUR. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. INT. FLAT. DAYTIME. She’s home by 12:15 and grabs her laptop and some papers for the group she runs, substituting her small black bag for a bigger black backpack, placing her laptop, phone, purse, notebook and pencil case, small makeup bag including deodorant, perfume, hair and headbands and hair clips, and hairbrush, and a memory stick and earphones. Taking her coat off, she then goes to the fridge to see what there is to eat for lunch. She decides on a pasta salad and sits down at the small round wooden kitchen table to eat it. By 12:30 she’s finished and washed up and so gets her coat from back off the coat stand, grabs her keys from the side, along her backpack, and then locks back up. She then heads to the community centre, taking a 10-minute bus ride and a 20-minute walk, arriving at the community centre for one o'clock, some of the young people having already arrived and waiting outside the hall we use. SCENE FIVE. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. INT. COMMUNITY CENTRE. DAYTIME. As they start going in, there is a sign-up sheet that CHARLOTTE puts out, along with an activities sheet, and so they line-up to sign it. She then to set-up the five different activities they’ve got in-store. The tutor then comes in and greets everyone with an apology for being late, and they set up a table for her to sit with the students. CHARLOTTE joins in with some of the activities for an hour-and-fifteen-minutes, and at 14:30 they sit down for a chat about how things are going in general, and then at 14:45 they begin packing up. By 15:00 they have packed up and got their things and are ready to go; they say their goodbyes and then MADDIE heads back home, arriving there for 15:30, getting her laptop out of her backpack and getting some song sheets up so that she can write on them. SCENE SIX. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. INT. FLAT. DAYTIME. She finishes at 17:00 and then begins cooking some tea. She has a small TV in the kitchen on the side, and often watches whilst cooking and eating at the dining table; she switches it on after she’s prepared the vegetables she’s going to cook. She then puts some sausages in the oven and starts grilling them. Once done, she sits down and eats, watching the TV and then washing up, putting a load of washing in the machine and going to her room to get changed into her basketball kit and puts her hair up into a ponytail. SCENE SEVEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. INT. SPORTS HALL. DAYTIME. At 17:45 she sets of for the sports hall, a ten-minute walk, and helps Jake - who’s already there - set up. CHARLOTTE Alright, Jake? JAKE Yeah. Yeah, I’m good ta. CHARLOTTE Need a hand? JAKE I could use one for the other side, thanks, love. CHARLOTTE Sure. By the time they’ve got the ball and bibs out, others have started arriving and the game will therefore begin in a matter of moments. Once they’ve all got their positions determined by their bibs on, the coach gets them to do some warm-ups, and then by 18:30 the coach calls for them to get into position ready for a game. 16-year-old CHARLOTTE plays Power Forward, 22-year-old JAKE plays Shooting Guard, 18-year-old BEN plays Centre, AMY plays Small Forward, and 18-year-old BRANDON plays Point Guard. BEN and AMY are twins. They get into position and start the training, and CHARLOTTE has scored twenty-five baskets in the last half-an-hour. And at 19:00 they get the cones out for dribbling, which they do for fifteen minutes, and then they spend the last ten minutes passing the ball between them, and finally the last five minutes are spent packing up. They then bid one another goodbye and they head out. SCENE EIGHT. MACHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. INT. FLAT. DAYTIME. So, CHARLOTTE sets off for the block of flats she lives in, that her mother rented for years as a teenager and her early-twenties. She gets some pyjamas out from her wardrobe in her room and sets them down on the side in the bathroom (there’s a side from left to right at the back with a round sink in the middle). The bathroom is next to the bedroom I’m the flat, with the kitchen, living room and storage cupboard on the right-hand-side of the hall. Once CHARLOTTE has gotten a towel out of one of the bathroom wall cabinets and hung it on the shower glass, closed the curtains and turned the shower on, she soaks in water for a moment and then begins washing her body. Her hair is up but she’s not washing her hair. She then dries herself on the white bath mat in the middle of the bathroom, and begins putting on her pyjamas: a pair of green shorts, and a blue top with a beach setting on it. She then puts her hair up in a messy bun and slips into her slippers, then placing the towel she just used on the towel rack. And then she goes into the kitchen to make tea and toast. Once that’s done she secures the flat (making sure necessary doors are locked, and curtains and blinds are closed) and so goes into the living room and closes the curtains (the blinds were already shut), and then she gets her phone out from her bag, sits down in the living room, closes the door, begins eating the toast she made earlier, and turns the TV on. She then receives a text message. She then goes into the bathroom to brush her teeth and gets changed into everyday clothing and heads out again. SCENE NINE. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. INT. PUB. NIGHTTIME. She heads to her local where she spots some older friends: 20-year-old twin brothers ETHAN and ELLIOTT, Ethan’s 19-year-old girlfriend MADDIE, Maddie’s 20-year-old sister ELIZABETH, and Elizabeth’s 20-year-old boyfriend TOM. They are visiting family on a break from filming. It’s 21:15 and ETHAN has his arm around MADDIE. CHARLOTTE has small brown eyes, is tanned, has a small thin nose, has a round face, cheekbones, wavy jet-black hair and is 5'8". ETHAN and ELLIOTT have small brown eyes, are tanned, and Ethan has a little stubble and is around 5'7" while Elliott’s baby-faced and 5’9” and, finally, they both have oval faces and strong cheekbones, messy thick dark brown hair and a handsome smile. MADDIE has long dirty blonde hair, is 5'7" in height, is fair skinned and has noticeable cheekbones, small green eyes and rosy cheeks. Elliott has a much bulkier build, is paler, has hazel eyes, freckles and lighter, shaven hair and is 5'9" in height. ELIZABETH has light brown hair, green eyes and cheekbones and has olive-tone skin, and is smaller in height than her younger sister at 5'5". TOM is 5'8" in height and has a round face and stubble, is olive-skin-toned, has dark brown parted hair and bright blue eyes. Elizabeth is sitting on her boyfriend’s lap and they are whispering sweet nothings in each other’s ears. Elliott and Charlotte are the only singles left in the bunch, but Elliott is a lady’s man and is usually speaking to at least two or three girls at a time. He’s had quite a few girlfriends but never really long-term, whereas his twin has had three or four girlfriends but they’ve all been for a longer period of time. ELLIOTT is sitting opposite his brother with a girl he met a few weeks ago when she guest-started at his workplace: 25-year-old DANIELLE JACKSON. She’s got one leg on Elliott’s lap and the other drooped over the edge of the red leather seat, her head resting against the wall that the booth is up against. CHARLOTTE is sitting next to ELLIOTT, opposite TOM and ELIZABETH. And next to CHARLOTTE, on the left-side-edge of the booth is TOMMY LEWIS, a cousin of Elizabeth and Maddie. DANIELLE How long have you pair been together?“ ETHAN Four years (He takes a sip from his pint) Danielle then turns her focus on Tom and Elizabeth. TOM Well, we first got together four years ago, but we split within three months; got back together two weeks later, stayed together for a year before breaking up again, and then got back together a day later; and it kept going like that on-off for another couple of years, but we’ve been firmly back together for a year now DANIELLE How can you be sure that you’ll stay together this time? And how come you’ve split so many times, anyway? (Danielle speaks her mind) TOM Er, well our personalities tend to clash because I’m the kind of guy who would be getting detentions every other day in school, was never very academically involved and used school as a social and trouble making opportunity, and partied while his parents were out- (He looks sheepish and then turns to his girlfriend) ELIZABETH Whereas I… put my head down and got all the work done, always had my head in a book, was at the library, or the voice of something academically-inclined, and only had a small group of friends. But when I met Tom at school I found his loud, cheeky side very attractive because he was funny and would always try and involve me in everything he could. And that’s when we started seeing each other… TOM But my wild side has always gotten in the way because there were trust issues. However, we’ve had a good chat about it and decided that none of that matters, we love each other and we couldn’t be ourselves without each other; the fitting pieces to one another’s puzzle. So, if it starts getting tough again, rather than splitting, we’ll talk about it and remind each other why we’re together. ELIZABETH So, we’re going to start over, we’re going to make a new start of our relationship, erase everything from the past that hasn’t gone the way we wanted it to, and stay together for as long as we can. (she smiles, cuddling in tighter to her boyfriend) TOM takes a mouthful from his pint and gulps it down, while ELIZABETH elegantly sips her wine. TOM then takes ELIZABETH’s left hand into his right, from over his shoulder. ETHAN and CHARLOTTE have now gone up for a dance and I swear if DANIELLE gets any closer to ELLIOTT she’ll be sitting on his lap. And TOMMY has now found a girl, who’s just asked him to dance. ELLIOTT Charlotte, do you want a game of pool? CHARLOTTE Sure. DANIELLE lazily takes her leg off of ELLIOTT’s lap and he downs the rest of his drink and offers CHARLOTTE a coke as they go past the bar to the pool table, an offer upon which she takes. Once she’s got the coke she thanks ELLIOTT and then he puts a coin in and they set up the game. CHARLOTTE Who’s breaking? ELLIOTT Ladies first. (He gestures the table) ELLIOTT Don’t you have work tomorrow? CHARLOTTE Nope! And even if I did, I like the company. (She breaks) ELLIOTT So, what are you doing tomorrow, then? (He takes his shot) CHARLOTTE Studio work. Care home. Community Centre. Maths evening class. English evening class. (Lazily) “Ooh!” (She pots a ball) ELLIOTT Nice one! Could always stay at ours, Mum and Dad won’t mind, you know what they’re like. Everyone’s coming ’round tonight. (Charlotte smiles) ETHAN Oi, Elliott, when you and Charlotte are done we’re gonna head back. (From the bar) ELLIOTT Alright, bro. ETHAN D'you want one more drink, any of you? ELLIOTT Please, bro. CHARLOTTE Yes, please. ETHAN takes a final swig from his bottle and orders another round, MADDIE linked arm in arm on his left side, head on his shoulder. ETHAN You alright, babe? You look tired. (He ruffles his girlfriend’s hair) MADDIE I am (Maddie sighs) ETHAN We’ll be going soon, no worries. Are you staying over? (Maddie nods) ETHAN Is there something else wrong, Mads, you seem upset? MADDIE Nah, just tired. (She’s still tucked into her boyfriend) ETHAN Well if there is something the matter, you can tell me, you know. MADDIE I know, babe, thank you. ELLIOTT Guys, anyone want a smoke? (He walks around the corner past the bar with Charlotte, aiming his question at his brother, Tom, and Maddie, knowing that they smoke and Danielle, Elizabeth and Maddie don’t) MADDIE goes out, leaving her sister with their cousin and DANIELLE. The others make their way out with their drinks in hand. And ELLIOTT hands a lighter round. CHARLOTTE Wish I were eighteen. (She shivers) ETHAN You can still smoke. (He takes his coat off and placing it on Charlotte’s shoulder) CHARLOTTE Thank you. ETHAN Drinking is good, though. (He puts his arm round his girlfriend and smiling) ETHAN and ELLIOTT’s younger sister, TIFFANI, comes around the corner suddenly with some of her friends from school. She’s 18. ETHAN Alright, Tiff! TIFFANI Yo, bros! (She slurs and giggles) ELLIOTT Are you drunk? Have you got her drunk? (He gestures to Tiff’s boyfriend on the right) BOYFRIEND No! And even she was, she’s eighteen. ETHAN Yeah well, she’s still our little sister. TIFFANI Shut up! (Tiff goes into the pub) See you at home. TOM Right, I’m gonna go see my girlfriend. (He goes back into the pub) ELLIOTT Dude, you saw her ten minutes ago. TOM I love her. Always wanna be with her. ETHAN You wouldn’t understand, mate. (Tom’s gone in) ELLIOTT Why wouldn’t I? ETHAN Because you’ve never been properly in love. You’ve loved before, but I don’t think you’ve ever been in love. ELLIOTT I haven’t. I love but they don’t seem to truly love me back. ETHAN That’s because you fall in love too quickly, mate. ELLIOTT Can’t help who you fall in love with. ETHAN No, but sometimes you can help how fast you fall in love with them. Or what you show. I fell in love with Maddie quickly but I didn’t tell her I loved her until about six months in because I didn’t want to put her off or jinx it. And I had to make sure I felt absolutely certain about my feelings and that I wanted to stay with her. And that I thought she felt the same about me. Bro, can you honestly tell me that you wanted to be with those girls for the long-term? ELLIOTT Just one. (Elliott takes a last swig from his bottle) But she’s well out of my reach. (He makes his way back inside) ETHAN How come? ELLIOTT She’s in love with someone else. (He opens the door and going back in) As everyone else follows, Charlotte makes to take off Ethan’s coat but he puts it back on her shoulder. ETHAN Keep it till we get to mine, I’m warm. CHARLOTTE Thanks again. ETHAN As for you… (He refers to his girlfriend and cuddling her in tighter, kissing her on the head) I love you and you only get your charger back when you give me a kiss!     (Maddie pecks Ethan on the lips) No no, I mean a proper kiss! CHARLOTTE Too much info, mate. When they get back in they get their coats and the twins tell their sister they’ll see her when they get home, and they head off out. ELLIOTT You coming, Danielle? DANIELLE Nah, mate, I’ll catch you up. ELLIOTT Alright. See you back at ours in a bit. DANIELLE Yeah. I’ll see you lot back with Tiff. TOM and ELIZABETH cuddle into one another as they walk. CHARLOTTE texts her mum and her aunt to say where she’s going; two minutes later SHONNÉ texts back and five minutes later AUNT FRANCESCA texts back. They are fine with it. On the way out of the pub they spot CHARLOTTE’s friend CHARLIE, who then joins them, and later his ex, LOTTIE YOUNG, who works with CHARLOTTE, and also joins them. SCENE TEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1, 2017. EXT. PARK. NIGHTTIME. They walk by a small park on the way to the Everton household. Ethan gets a cigarette out and begins smoking it, and then leads the way into the park, sits against a fence in the pitch dark, and spins Maddie around to sit in his lap; ELLIOTT sits next to them and lights up a cigarette, CHARLOTTE beside ELLIOTT, and TOMMY beside MADDIE, while TOM and ELIZABETH sit side-by-side at the back. TOM has his arm around ELIZABETH as he too lights up a cigarette, while ETHAN leans over to light CHARLOTTE’s up for her. CHARLOTTE Cheers, mate. ETHAN notices MADDIE getting cold and starting to shiver, and so wraps his arm around her and gives her a very friendly kiss on the cheek. TIFFANI, her boyfriend MAX, DANIELLE, and their friends ANTONY, his girlfriend DIONNE, her fraternal twin AMY, FLOYD, and EMMA are on their way to the Evertons’ when they cross through the park and sit with the others. TIFFANI and MAX sit together next to CHARLOTTE; DANIELLE sits beside TOM and ELIZABETH; and ANTONY and FLOYD squeeze themselves between ETHAN and MADDIE and ELLIOTT. At 23:15 they decide to play a game of Heads Up, which lasts until midnight, and with ELLIOTT and MADDIE tying in first place, they then decide to play Truth or Dare until 00:30; ELLIOTT, TIFFANI, MAX and DANIELLE quickly got bored of that game because nobody else was doing a Dare. So, they moved on to Spin the Bottle, however the couples did not take part. They form a circle at the swings; from left to right starting at CHARLOTTE: ELLIOTT; DANIELLE; TOMMY; FLOYD; EMMA; LOTTIE; AMY; CHARLIE. CHARLOTTE, ELLIOTT, DANIELLE and EMMA light up a cigarette each, and everyone except TOMMY and FLOYD has (another) drink. CHARLOTTE was made to kiss ELLIOTT and TOMMY, while DANIELLE and LOTTIE are made to kiss CHARLIE; DANIELLE is made to kiss ELLIOTT, and EMMA and AMY are made to kiss FLOYD. SCENE ELEVEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1 AND 2, 2017. THE EVERTON HOUSE. NIGHTTIME. Then at 23:45, the twins, TIFFANI, MAX, CHARLOTTE, MADDIE, TOM, ELIZABETH, DANIELLE and TOMMY decide to go back to the Evertons’ place, a ten-minute walk away. Once there, TIFFANI, MAX, DANIELLE and TOMMY head into TIFFANI’s bedroom, while the others head into the twins’ room: ETHAN and MADDIE lay on his bed; ELLIOTT and CHARLOTTE on his bed; TOM and ELIZABETH on the yellow beanbag under the window. By midnight ELLIOTT has CHARLOTTE tucked into his chest, and they’re watching a film with earphones on his tablet; ETHAN and MADDIE are well into a game of tonsil tennis; TOM is showing ELIZABETH something on his phone whilst cuddling her from behind as she sits on his lap. MADDIE Do I get my charger back now? (Maddie asks Ethan after they’ve taken a breath) He reaches down the side of his bed and pulls it out from the plug behind his bedside table, rolls the wire up around the plug and puts it in her jean pocket. ETHAN Thank you. Right, I’m going to get some drinks. (He jumps up off his bed and smiling back at his girlfriend) TOM I’ll come. (Tom pecks Elizabeth on the cheek and shifting her legs so that he can get up) They go downstairs and bump into Ethan’s parents, 45-year-old BECKY LLOYD and 47-year-old DANNY, holding hands as they pass their son and Tom on the way up the stairs to bed. BECKY Goodnight. DANNY ’Night, mate. ETHAN Na-night. BECKY Don’t stay up too late. They pass ETHAN’s older brother, 24-year-old THOMAS at the table on his laptop. Upstairs, ELLIOTT wraps his arms around CHARLOTTE’s waist from behind, and plants a soft kiss on her cheek. By 02:45 they have had five more lagers each, three more cigarettes, and are falling asleep under the sheets of his bed. ETHAN and MADDIE don’t fall asleep until around 03:30; ELIZABETH dropped off at 00:30 and TOM was playing ‘Heads Up’ with ETHAN and MADDIE until 02:00, when he went to sleep on the orange beanbag next to his girlfriend. At 06:45 CHARLOTTE wakes up, and showers until 06:55, getting some spare clothes from under ELLIOTT’s bed (she stays often as she and the twins go way back) and she takes ETHAN’s laptop downstairs (as she has done many times; he lets her use it for studio work, where she’ll email herself back after she’s done) and starts working. She opens her emails and finds a song sheet, and then finds an email from her manager DAPHNE, requesting the sort of work she wants done. And begins writing. At 07:30 MAYA EVERTON comes downstairs and offers her friend some breakfast and fresh clothes, which CHARLOTTE kindly accepts. CHARLOTTE stays round the twins more frequently than anyone apart from MADDIE, who keeps clothes in the twins’ room in Ethan’s wardrobe. ETHAN Hey, Charlotte, do you want some company to visit your grandparents? CHARLOTTE Er, if you’re offering, mate. But I’ve gotta leave in ten. ETHAN Okay, no worries. Let me just put some toast in and brush me teeth and then we can head off. I’ll walk Mads to college as well CHARLOTTE Sure, no worries. Thanks, E. ETHAN Right, what would you like for breakfast, love? (He asks Maddie) MADDIE Yoghurt, please, if you’ve got any, babe? ETHAN Coming up. ELLIOTT Right, I’m off to work. See you guys later. (Elliott puts his coat on, half a piece of toast hanging from his mouth) MAYA AND ETHAN See ya, bro. After a series of ‘goodbye’s he makes his way out. SCENE TWELVE. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 2, 2017. EXT. STREETS OF MANCHESTER AND OUTSIDE OF LOCAL COLLEGE. DAYTIME. At 08:50 ETHAN, MADDIE and CHARLOTTE bid goodbye and head out. ETHAN and MADDIE are holding hands. It’s another miserable rainy Manchester day and so all three are wearing hoodies/coats and have hoods up. They walk towards the park where they stayed for a few hours last night and turn left at the end of the street, walk down a road for ten minutes until they’re at Maddie’s (and Elizabeth’s) house, where she grabs her backpack and a drink. Another fifteen-minute walk down the street and they’re at the college MADDIE attends; she wraps her arms around her boyfriend’s neck and gives him a cuddle, which he happily receives, and as she meets a couple of friends who also give Ethan a wave, they say “I love you” to one another, and then she’s off giggling with her friends. ETHAN So, do you want dropping off or for some company inside? (He throws an arm around Charlotte’s left shoulder) CHARLOTTE You’re not working till later, are you? ETHAN Nah, twelve till eight. CHARLOTTE Okay, then yes, please, company’d be nice. (She smiles) What’s the time? ETHAN Twen'y past nine. CHARLOTTE You got a burn, by any chance? ETHAN Er… (Ethan hesitates as he feels around in his pockets for a moment) Yes (He gets a lighter out and then a cigarette pack) SCENE THIRTEEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 2, 2017. INT. CARE HOME. DAYTIME. They talk for another ten minutes into the town centre, and then make their way up the stone steps. They sign in at the desk, and a nurse directs the two to CHARLOTTE’s NANA LIZZIE and GRAMPA LEON. CHARLOTTE Hiya, Nana (Charlotte says barely above a whisper) NANA ANNA Shonné? CHARLOTTE Nana, it’s me. It’s Charlotte, your granddaughter, and this is my friend, Ethan. Remember? NANA ANNA Charlotte? CHARLOTTE Yes, Nana, it’s me. Do you want a cup of tea? (She nods vaguely) ETHAN I’ll make it (Ethan offers as Charlotte makes to get up) NANA ANNA Thanks, sweet. GRAMPA LEON comes out from his room. GRAMPA LEON Hiya, sweetheart. (Grampa Leon gives Charlotte a hug) CHARLOTTE Hiya, Grampa. How are you? GRAMPA LEON Alive. How are you? How’s Mum, Aunt Francesca. CHARLOTTE They’re alright, Grampa, as am I - thank you. ETHAN comes back with three mugs of tea. ETHAN There we go. CHARLOTTE Thanks, E. NANA ANNA Thank you … er … E-E … Eth- … E … something. CHARLOTTE Ethan, Nana. NANA ANNA Right. GRAMPA LEON Thank you, Ethan. (He raises his mug) After an hour of random chats about life and memories have been shared and exchanged, CHARLOTTR and ETHAN bid their goodbyes and make their way out. SCENE FOURTEEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 2, 2017. EXT. STREETS OF MANCHESTER. DAYTIME. ETHAN Hungry? CHARLOTTE Yeah, I could eat. ETHAN Where’d you fancy? CHARLOTTE Chippy? ETHAN Sure. They buy chips and go for a walk in the park. CHARLOTTE Thanks for coming with me today, E. ETHAN No probs. You coming ’round tonight? CHARLOTTE Yeah, Elliott asked me last night. ETHAN Ah, I’ve got work till one. So, you and me brother can have the room to yourselves! (He nudges her) CHARLOTTE Shut up! ETHAN Well, when are you guys ever gonna get on with this shit? CHARLOTTE Dude! I don’t see him in that way. ETHAN How come? CHARLOTTE I don’t know, it’s just … a lot of girls have a crush on him. ETHAN Yeah but what’s that matter? He’s only got eyes for you. (Charlotte does not respond) SCENE FIFTEEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1 AND 2, 2017. THE EVERTON HOUSE. DAYTIME. They make their way back to the Evertons’ place at 11:30. After she’s been at the community centre, CHARLOTTE heads to the library. She stacks shelves for a while, and helps out with some admin, and then heads back home to the flat, where her mother and aunt are, for tea. SCENE SIXTEEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 1 AND 2, 2017. THE EVERTON HOUSE. NIGHTTIME. At 22:00 that night, CHARLOTTE and ELLIOTT are in the living room at his place playing a game with MAYA, her boyfriend CODY, DANIELLE JACKSON, her sister JENNIFER, Maya’s friends RYDER and SAMANTHA, and Max’s best friend TRAVIS. They are playing video games. MAYA, CODY, TRAVIS and DANIELLE go up to her room at 00:00, while everyone else minus CHARLOTTE has left by then. ELLIOTT lays on his bed and pulls out a cigarette, offering CHARLOTTE one. ELLIOTT Thanks, mate. (Charlotte takes one from the pack) D'you wa’ a lift back after, or you staying? CHARLOTTE Lift, please, mate. They smoke, drink and chat for a while on ELLIOTT’s bed, and ETHAN comes back in five minutes later. ETHAN Hey, bro, what you up to? ELLIOTT You’re early. ETHAN Yeah, it was quiet. Hiya, Charlotte. CHARLOTTE Hey. ELLIOTT D'you want a smoke? A can? ETHAN Yeah, go on. But then I’m going to sleep. CHARLOTTE, you’re welcome to stay as long as you want. But if you’re gonna be staying up late, quiet please. CHARLOTTE Of course, mate. ETHAN’s phone rings. ETHAN Hey, babe… Elizabeth … Calm down, I can’t understand ya. Eliz- Where’s Maddie? Is Tom there? Mate, what’s going on? I can’t hear. Oh, shit… Okay, I’m coming over. (He hangs up the phone) ELLIOTT What’s going on? ETHAN Not sure. I’ve gotta go. Tell 'oever’s up that I’ve got my phone if they need me. ELLIOTT Be safe. And let us know when you’re ready. Is there any chance you could give Charlotte a lift home? ETHAN Will do. Let’s go, get ya home. See ya later, mate. ELLIOTT Good luck, bro. You coming ours later, Char? CHARLOTTE Yeah, I will, but not for a while, I’ve got a family meal with my mum and aunt at seven. ELLIOTT Oh okay, give us a buzz, then. CHARLOTTE Will do. See ya later. They get into the twins’ blue ford focus for the five-minute ride. ETHAN looks intense and is biting his fingernail nervously. ETHAN Sorry, Char, I’m worried about Mads and the family - something’s obviously happened. CHARLOTTE As long as they’re okay. Go on, go and see her - I’ll see you later, yeah - good luck.

ETHAN Thanks, Char, I’ll let you know. SCENE SEVENTEEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 2, 2017. INT. FLAT. NIGHTTIME. Charlotte strolls in to the flat silently, at 01:30. Her mother and aunt seem to be sleeping. The following morning, Charlotte goes downstairs at 07:30, and bumps into Aunt Francesca in the kitchen. AUNT FRANCESCA Good night, was it? (Aunt Francesca says smugly, taking a bite of her toast and making her way for the door) Coming? CHARLOTTE Yeah, sure. SCENE EIGHTEEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 2, 2017. INT. EVERTON HOUSE. NIGHTTIME. At 10pm, CHARLOTTE gets dropped off at the Evertons’ by her aunt. Elliott answers the door. ELLIOTT Hey, you! Just us, Melissa and Danielle tonight,“ he says softly, closing the door behind him. Ethan’s with Mads, Mum and Dad have gone to stay with Uncle Brad, Maya’s 'round our cousin’s, Tiff’s with Max, and Thomas finally has a date. CHARLOTTE Ah, okay, no worries - what 'ya up to? ELLIOTT Drinking. Want one? (Elliott closes the front door behind her and they make their way into the living room) CHARLOTTE Hey, babe. ELLIOTT Hiya, mate. CHARLOTTETO smiles, taking a seat next to MELISSA on the opposite sofa. They play drinking games from apps on their phone. At 23:00, the door suddenly slams open and they hear Ethan’s voice and a load of kissing sounds and Elizabeth’s giggles; ELLIOTT gets up to say hello to his brother. ETHAN Oh, shit - sorry, bro, didn’t realise you were in. ELLIOTT Clearly. (He smirks) Hey, Mads, everything alright? MADDIE Hey, Elliott, I’m alright, thanks - well, now I am, anyway - wasn’t the other night - shit happened but I’d sooner not talk about it. I’m sure myself or Elizabeth will tell you soon. ELLIOTT No worries, love. Wanna join? We’ve got Melissa, Charlotte and Danielle here. ETHAN Actually, bro, we’re just gonna head upstairs for the night - have fun, though, and say hi. ELLIOTT Alright, will do, night. ETHAN and MADDIE head upstairs and he gently pushes her against his bedroom door and kisses her passionately; he’s wearing a pale blue buttoned shirt and she’s wearing a black vest top; she has her hands on his chest as he undoes his buttons to reveal a muscled and tanned torso; his bright brown eyes gleaming as he looks into her thin emerald green eyes, she takes off his T-shirt and throws it across the room (it lands on the other side of Elliott’s bed). MADDIE absorbs ETHAN’s body for a moment, Ethan leaning on the doorframe. Maddie leans in again and mumbles "I love you” against his lips; “I love you, too,” he says with a smile, biting his lips cutely. MADDIE looks down and then hugs her boyfriend lightly; he cuddles her back wordlessly, knowing why she’s suddenly so upset. She has to tuck her head into his chest, because they’re the same height. ETHAN Wa’ 'o go 'o bed? MADDIE sobs and nods. ETHAN remains shirtless, but she doesn’t bother to strip or change at all, just lays on Ethan’s chest. Downstairs, ELLIOTT’s finally got a guy friend to join him, MATT, who DANIELLE used to have sex with every time they saw each other - because, you know, DANIELLE fucks everything that moves and doesn’t give a shit about anything - and MATT just liked the thrill. MATT has his eye on MELISSA, now, a pretty blonde haired petite girl with big blue eyes, kind of resembles Taylor Swift; MATT’s got more of a Channing Tatum look with a face like Brian McFadden - muscled meaty build and a handsome face and physique every girl wants - a lot like ELLIOTT. CHARLOTTE is sitting between ELLIOTT on her right, and MELISSA on her left, MATT and DANIELLE on the other side. They keep pecking each other playfully even though he has a girlfriend which is why CHARLOTTE feels rather bad for MELISSA; she’s sweet and will fall for his charm; all he’ll have to do is tell her what she wants to hear - he tried that on CHARLOTTE more than once but she never fell for that bullshit, whereas MELISSA would have because she hasn’t had enough experience or been with enough decent guys to know any different. ELLIOTT has a reputation as a player, because he’s scared of feeling, falling for a girl too hard and then getting hurt - so instead he puts on a persona that doesn’t want a girlfriend, a long term, stable relationship, just somebody to shag - in order to cover that up, where really, he’s just like the rest of us, just wants to be loved and settle down. He hasn’t discussed this with anyone but Ethan and CHARLOTTE. CHARLOTTE has known the twins since she was a baby and they were four, with their parents being best friends as DANNY and SHONNÉ grew up together. Upstairs, MADDIE’s fallen asleep on ETHAN’s left arm and chest; he is using his phone in his right hand. His phone vibrates and it’s ELIZABETH. ETHAN Hello? ELIZABETH Hey, E, is Mads with you? She’s not answering her phone. ETHAN Yeah, sorry about that, her phone’s on vibrate and charging in the corner of mine and Elliott’s room, she’s asleep on my shoulder at the moment. ELIZABETH Bugger. D'you think she’ll be alright? She never goes to bed before twelve. ETHAN I hope so, I love her and I hate seeing her so… broken. (He looks down at his sleeping girlfriend) What do we do, Elizabeth? ELIZABETH We wait. Until she’s ready to talk. ETHAN I just wanna hug her, tell her it’s all gonna be okay. ELIZABETH I know, Ethan, so do I. She’ll get there, I promise, we’ll just have to keep an eye on her. ETHAN Yeah, I know… You with Tom? ELIZABETH Not tonight, no, he’s gone to a house party. I’ve had a few girls 'round ours - Lily’s joined but my parents are out. ETHAN Oh okay, and are you okay? ELIZABETH Yeah, just worried about me sister. Tom’s heading here now. ETHAN What, drunk? To a girl’s party? ELIZABETH No! He’s not been drinking and the girls went after the film we watched. ETHAN Oh okay. I’ll let ya get on then, have a good evening. See ya soon. MADDIE Yeah, look after me sister for me, E. ETHAN I will. Night. MADDIE Na-night. He looks down at his girlfriend and strokes her cheek with his index finger. CHARLOTTE knocks on the door softly. ETHAN gets up and gestures Charlotte out the room and into the hallway. ETHAN Hey, what’s up? CHARLOTTE Just came in to get some clothes. No worries, I’ll come back in the morning. ETHAN No, no, you don’t need to do that, love. Go on, go on in. Charlotte nods and smiles; Ethan goes to the loo while Charlotte enters the bedroom and quickly but quietly ruffles through the drawers by Elliott’s bed. CHARLOTTE Ta, love. ETHAN You’re alright. CHARLOTTE Ethan, honey, do you wanna talk? ETHAN I’m good. CHARLOTTE E, you’re going through what Mads is going through. ETHAN It’s fucking killing me. But I still care more about my beautiful, precious girlfriend than I do myself. CHARLOTTE I get that, E, but you still gotta grieve yourself. ETHAN I just need to be there for Mads. CHARLOTTE And we need to be there for you - me and Elliott. ETHAN And you are, Charlotte – you always ’ave been. And Elliott. CHARLOTTE Then talk to us. Let us help. ETHAN I need to get back in to Mads. CHARLOTTE Ethan I’m sorry. ETHAN Not your fault, love. (He tears up and she pulls him in for a cuddle) ETHAN Thank you, Charlotte. CHARLOTTE I didn’t do anything. ETHAN You were there for me, that’s more than enough. Charlotte I’d better get ‘ome. ETHAN D’you wan’ a lift? CHARLOTTE Mhm, please. ETHAN I’ll get Elliott to take you. I’d do it but I wanna be here in case Mads wakes up. CHARLOTTE Okay, love. ETHAN Come on, then, let’s go. (They make their way downstairs) Hey, bro, can you give our beautiful young friend here a lift ’ome? ELLIOTT Yeah, no worries. ETHAN gets a can from the fridge and makes his way back up the stairs, while ELLIOTT and CHARLOTTE head out. SCENE NINETEEN. MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE. AUGUST 2, 2017. EXT. ELLIOTT’S CAR. ELLIOTT puts the radio on. CHARLOTTE begins to sing. ELLIOTT You’ve a lovely singing voice, Char. CHARLOTTE Ha! Thanks. ELLIOTT You want me to buy you some cigs? CHARLOTTE Yeah, please – that’d be brilliant, mate. ELLIOTT No worries, babe.

[sabrinasweetchai]

Just saw this I know i’m late but it actually looked fun Tagged by @2d-trees 

rules: answer 30 questions and tag 20 blogs you would like to get to know better.(these aren’t 30 questions, but okay).

1. Nicknames: Sab, Sabs, Sa boo, Bree, 

2. Gender: Female 3. Star sign: Libra 4. Height: 5′5″ but I tell people 5′6″  5. Time: 10:10 pm which is weird cuz im usually on at like 3am 6. Birthday: October 22nd and I share it with two other people because apparently im a triplet and people get mad when I they find out and I didn’t tell them im not joking people get mad its stupid  7. Favorite bands: Beyoncé, Nico Vega, Paramore, Pink Floyd, The Avalanches, Cage the Elephant, Arctic Monkeys, The 1975, HAIM, The Raconteurs, Fleetwood Mac, Gorillaz, Green Day, INXS, Kasabian, The Selecter, Led Zeppelin, The Specials, Prince and the Revolution, Queen, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The White Stripes, Alabama Shakes, London Grammar, Soundgarden, Wolf Alice, The Black Keys, The Rolling Stones, Rage Against the Machine, Florence + The Machine (there are more this was off the top of my head) 

8. Favorite solo artists:  Beyoncé, Kehlani, Jessie Reyez, Lizzo, Khalid, Halsey, Lorde, Logic, Alicia Keys, Bishop Briggs, Dua Lipa, SZA, ZZ Ward, Alessia Cara, Michael Jackson, David Bowie, Rihanna, Ella Eyre, Emeli Sandé, Banks, Aminé, Childish Gambino, Chance the Rapper, Jeff Buckley, Lauryn Hill, Bille Eilish, FKA twigs,  Janet Jackson, lowkey love Fergie and her new album, Anything Tina Turner and anything Whitney Houston, Kiesza, LOLO, Prince, Sia, Skepta, Stormzy, Nadia Rose, Mary J Blige, Diana Ross

8a. Favorite Musical Groups or Duos (adding this in because why is this not an option): Beyoncé, Destiny’s Child, A Tribe Called Quest, Little Mix, 702, TLC, Blaque, 3LW, En Vogue, B2K, Boyz II Men, Spice Girls, SWV, Zhané, OutKast, Run The Jewels, Wham!, *NSYNC, Backstreet Boys yup sorry had to 

All music started off the top of my head then I went to my ipod and youtube and apparently all i’ve been listening to is 90′s and early 2000′s R&B and lots of throwbacks from my childhood what is my life? Also didn’t know if these artists were meant to be dead or alive so I did whatever I wanted 

9. Song stuck in my head: Jessie Reyez, Figures  10. Last movie I watched: IT in the movie theater and Beetlejuice at home 11. Last show I watched: Can’t remember so its either QI, As Yet Untitled with Alan Davies, Great British Bakeoff or any sporting event on tv I know thats not a show but i’m not really watching any series at the moment but I neeeeed toooo 12. When did I create my blog: 2010

13. What do I post: Stuff and things 14. Last thing I googled: When Syracuse NY was discovered or founded (because I was having a dumb argument with my mom and needed to be right and I was)  15. Do I have any other blogs: yes art blog www.sabrinaelahiart.tumblr.com and some others  16. Do I get asks: its been 84 years (insert titanic gif) 17. Why I chose my url:  it used to be something else and I was in the high school and thought sweet and chai sounded cool together and I like chai its stupid and I should change it but im lazy.  18. Following: 162 19. Followers: 450 (i’m more popular on my art page go figure) 

21. Average hours of sleep: LOL 22. Lucky number: 8 idk why  23. Instruments: I can half ass the Saxophone and the Guitar and I kinda remember some piano but not enough that it sounds good  24. What am I wearing: black striped velvet pants, T-shirt with my art on it because self advertisement :) and Denim Jacket covered in enamel pins because i’m addicted.  25. Dream job:  Paint all day and be a singer on the side if only  26. Dream trip: Always wanted to go to Madrid, Australia my grandma was born there, Egypt, Jamaica I could list lots of places imma stop now  27. Favorite food: Pizza im boring or Bhindi loveee Bhindi  28. Nationality: Pakistani born and live in the US but my roots are mainly Pakistan 30. Favorite song right now:  Misbehaving by Labrinth 

you don’t have to do this unless you want but I tag @vanillaeve @borerrito @jedi-lesbian @kwansimah @phleshe @aavec @lifekicksyourass @lookingoutonthedayofanotherdream @nostalgicoldsoul (was trying to tag you and I think it unfollowed or re followed idk but I got a message) Sorry if I didn’t tag you I did this off the top of my head I also didn’t tag 20 oh well sue me. 

[xtcpanda]

Seriously, is playing Video Games as BAD as mom says?

If you grew up playing video games like I did … you’ve probably heard lots of conflicting information about games from your parents and people. Some say too much gaming will ruin your vision or rot your brain … While others claim it improves your hand-eye coordination, response time and can even make you smarter so what exactly does gaming do to our brain and body?

When I was a kid, I was obsessed with video games.

  I would stay awake for more than 48h till I wake up with keyboard marks on my face, red eyes and my body is so tired to even get up and drink some water... trust me I am not exaggerating. After all that I would go to sleep only to dream about the perfect headshot with that “AWM”.

  But there were physical effects, too. My thumbs turned into machines, quick and precise. During especially difficult levels of play, my palms would sweat. My heart would race. I’d have knots in my stomach from anxiety. It was the same feeling I’d sometimes get from watching scary movies or suspenseful TV shows.

These days the gaming industry is booming and becoming more like sports with fans, medals and everything! and thanks to smartphones and free games like fortnight and League of Legends … Gamers are increasing more than ever before. So, given that we can play virtually anywhere at any time How is all this gaming changing us physically?

Scientists are discovering that playing video games can change the way we act, think, and feel. Whether these changes are good or bad has become a subject of intense debate.

  Action games like counter-strike, overwatch and PUBG are some of the most popular with gamers these days and probably you’ve heard once or twice your grandmother says “these games will make you more violent from all the blood you see!”

Whenever a wave of teenage violence strikes, movies, TV, or video games often take the heat. Some adults assume that movies, TV, and video games are a bad influence on kids, and they blame these media for causing various problems.

  But media don’t necessarily cause violence, says James Gee. Gee is an education professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

“You get a group of teenage boys who shoot up a school—of course they’ve played video games,” Gee says. “Everyone does. It’s like blaming food because we have obese people.”

  Video games are innocent of most of the charges against them, Gee says…

  Well, based on 15 years’ worth of study researchers have found that action games biggest positive effects were on perception: how our senses interpret external stimuli like sights and sounds, spatial cognition: which helps you orient yourself in navigating 3d environments and top-down attention: the ability to focus on one object while ignoring distractions.

  A good video game is challenging, entertaining, and complicated. It usually takes 50 to 60 hours of intense concentration to finish one. Even kids who can’t sit still in school can spend hours trying to solve a video or computer game.

“Kids diagnosed with ADHD because they can’t pay attention will play games for 9 straight hours on the computer”, Gee says. “The game focuses attention in a way that school doesn’t.”

The captivating power of video games might lie in their interactive nature. Players don’t just sit and watch. They get to participate in the action and solve problems. Some games even allow players to make changes in the game, allowing new possibilities.

  Different games have different impacts on the brain and that has to do with what you’re asked to do … just like food it doesn’t have the same vitamins after all, does it?

   “Failure is key to success”.

Ask anyone who has ever had any success in anything if they have ever failed. You will get a big clear “Yes!” because everyone has failed at something. Most people probably know about Thomas Edison and his spectacular failure rate but here are a few other examples:

J.K. Rowling -known for writing the Harry Potter fantasy series- was rejected by 12 publishers

Einstein didn’t speak until he was 4 and didn’t read until he was 7

Van Gogh only sold 1 painting in his lifetime

Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team.

In games you get 1000 lives and more! We don’t stop playing till the game says “Game Over” but then we click on “New Game” or new try.

  “Gaming could be good for pain relief”.

a 2012 literature review published in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine found that in the 38 studies examined, video games improved the health outcomes of 195 patients on every front, including psychological and physical therapy.

Plus, in 2010, scientists presented research at the American Pain Society's conference, which found evidence that playing video games, especially virtual reality games, are effective at reducing anxiety or pain caused by chronic illness or medical procedures.

"The focus is drawn to the game not the pain or the medical procedure, while the virtual reality experience engages visual and other senses," said Jeffrey Gold from the University of Southern California.

  “Better Decision Making”.

Shawn Green from the University of Rochester wanted to see how games affect our ability to make decisions.

The study had a group of young adults with no gaming experience play an action game for 50 hours.

A second group of the same age played a slow-paced strategy game instead.

  After the study, Green had nothing but good things to say:

“Action video games are fast-paced, and there are peripheral images and events popping up, and disappearing. These video games are teaching people to become better at taking sensory data in, and translating it into correct decisions.”

A colleague of his even went on to say that shooters can change the brain by dramatically enhancing many of our low-level perceptual functions. Definitely good news for all the Halo and Call of Duty fans out there.

  “Games Can Help (Not Hurt!) Your Eyesight”.

Who grew up without ever hearing their parents say “you’re going to go blind watching that screen all day”.

  For a while, it did seem like they had a point since we tend to blink much less frequently while playing a game.

This can cause serious problems like eyestrain and dry eye syndrome.

  Another team of researchers from the University of Rochester sought to prove if games really worsen our vision.

The 2009 study involved having a group of experienced first-person shooter gamers plays Call of Duty and Unreal Tournament 2004 while more casual gamers played slow games like The Sims 2.

  After testing, those who played the first-person shooters showed signs of having a better vision than the others.

Daphne Bavelier, the leader of the study, discovered that playing action games improves an ability called contrast sensitivity function.

This ability helps us discern between changes in shades of gray against a colored backdrop, which is very beneficial while driving at night.

“Video Games May Help Treat Depression”.

A few years back researchers in New Zealand sought to find out if video games can be used to treat mental disorders like depression.

This was done with SPARX, a game specifically designed to provide therapy to teenagers in a way that’s more active and enjoyable than regular counseling.

Over 168 teens with an average age of 15 participated, with all of them having shown previous signs of depression.

  While half of the group received traditional counseling, the other group got to play SPARX.

The game involves creating avatars to rid the virtual world of enemies representing gloomy, negative thoughts.

Every stage also introduced general facts about depression, including ways to relax and deal with negative emotions.

Here’s their conclusion after discovering that SPARX players did better at recovering from depression than the other group:

  “SPARX is a potential alternative to usual care for adolescents presenting with depressive symptoms in primary care settings and could be used to address some of the unmet demand for treatment.”

  “Games has a purpose, meaning and can actually help!”.

Darfur is Dying is a video game made in 2006 by Students at the University of Southern California that provides a window into the experience of the 2.5 million refugees in the Darfur region of Sudan. It is designed to raise awareness of the genocide taking place in Darfur and empower college students to help stop the crisis. The game was developed in cooperation with humanitarian aid workers with extensive experience in Darfur.

First, you choose a Darfurian character to represent your camp. Next, you are instructed to go out and get water, which is the goal of the game. You are warned about the implications of some of the game's rules,

In the game, the user chooses a Darfurian character out of 7: a guy at the age of 30, a 26 years old woman, 5 kids from 10 to 14 years old from both genders to find some water... but watch out hide yourself from the Janjaweed militia! Upon success or failure, they learn that their chances of succeeding were predetermined by their gender and age if they are still young the militia takes them, if they are adults they get killed or raped. The navigation system in the game enables the player to learn about the situation in Darfur, get involved with stopping the crisis.

  As we saw no one plays a game and doesn’t gain something ... either you get a positive impact or a null impact. We haven’t seen any area that has been damaged where there is worse performance.

  Playing video games can be very high speed, can create a lot of chaos, create a lot of multiple environments where you have to make decisions, and all of these are forming skills in brain so … No, I think games really help improve our cognition and awareness training our brains making us better Human beings.

But of course, too much of anything is going to be bad after all.

You will get more learning gained from smaller sessions spread out over time than one BIG block.

  When it comes to my own experience, I’ve played games for more than 13 years never suffered any gaming related injuries. While may I never know if gaming helped my brain, I do know it didn’t destroy it … so take that mom!

  —   Moaaz Akram

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'Assassination squads' - Thai exiles speak of life in fear

When political activist Sirawith Seritiwat was attacked at a bus stop in suburban #Bangkok in June 2019, the ripples were soon felt among Thailand's exiled dissidents.

Sirawith, 27, was chased down the street and beaten by a group of men carrying sticks, the most violent encounter he had endured in more than five years opposing the military junta which assumed control of Thailand in 2014. He has been detained and charged more than any other activist since the coup. The attacks on Thai dissidents and pro-democracy activists are becoming increasingly violent and are being felt across ASEAN countries. And for political exiles who are critical of the monarchy –many of whom are wanted for lese-majeste or royal defamation – the attacks can be deadly. Nithiwat Wannasiri is an exiled member of the protest band Faiyen who is living across the border in Laos. He felt certain Sirawith's attack was connected to the deaths of two of his associates and the disappearance of six others in the past three years. “It’s made us concerned ... We know that they’re the same murderers in ,” he said.

Democracy activist Sirawith Seritiwat leads a demonstration in May 2018.CREDIT:AP On New Year's Eve, two bodies washed up on the banks of the Mekong River on the Thai-Laos border. They were gutted and stuffed with concrete to weigh them down, and were later identified as belonging to colleagues of Surachai Danwattananusorn, who has spent decades opposing the monarchy and military regimes. Surachai himself has been missing since December 2018. On May 8, three close associates of the band were detained entering Vietnam and have not been heard from since. Reports of abductions in the Lao capital, Vientiane, date from June 2016. All those missing or dead are fierce critics of the junta and question the role of the Thai monarchy. Sunday’s assault on Sirawith also coincided with threats the band has received in recent weeks – a series of vitriolic and personal messages suggesting they were the next targets of attackers apparently undeterred by the border. Faiyen member Worravut “Tito” Thueakchaiyaphum, 30, said the exiled critics had been living with threats for five years, but it “has become more serious because eight people have been made disappeared”. “Now the focus is on Faiyen because we are the last group. We are the last group broadcasting into Thailand,” he said.

Members of the Faiyen protest band in Laos: Nithiwat Wannasiri, Worravut Thueakchaiyaphum, Romchalee Sombulrattanakul and Trairong Sinseubpol. CREDIT:AP   “They sent an assassination squad into Laos. We worked together, we were very close to the victims. “I am not a criminal, and thinking differently about the monarch is not criminal. Criticising the monarchy should not be a death sentence." Named for a handheld sparkler, and literally translated as "cool fire", Faiyen's sweet blend of Thai folk and pop music belies the subversiveness of their lyrics. They take direct aim at the monarchy and the country's elite, often including or adapting chants from political rallies. The band broadcasts on radio and uses live social media feeds to spread their music and messages. Worravut said he and his friends were “the people who want to see Thailand develop and advance".

"We are not criminals. We want our struggle to be known internationally. This is a liberty and freedom people should have to think differently. We hope the brutality and barbaric acts of the Thai junta will be condemned.” Human Rights Watch Thailand senior researcher Sunai Phasuk said both the attack on Sirawith and the threats to Faiyen were part of a broader crackdown on dissent, but likely fell into separate categories. Sirawith was one of three high-profile victims of non-lethal attacks on Thai territory. These were likely about short-term politics, because they targeted opponents of Prayut Chan-o-cha – the junta leader who this week was confirmed as the country's Prime Minister. Those in Laos, Vietnam and a registered asylum seeker forcibly returned from Malaysia last month were different.

Surachai Danwattananusorn faces court in Bangkok in 2012. He later went into exile in Laos and has not been seen since December 12, 2018. CREDIT:AP   "They are enemies of the palace,” Sunai said, adding the Prayut administration had made tracking down dissidents in exile a priority. However, Sunai said it was unclear who was behind the deaths and disappearances. The claims of squads travelling to neighbouring countries were serious and were unlike anything he had heard of before, but were unproven. “There’s no evidence because there’s no investigation,” he said. “Laos has responded as if nothing has happened. What has made them turn a blind eye? When the bodies appeared it should have been a red light. What happened? Nothing. “All the combined signals, even though there’s no clear evidence, suggest someone significant enough to put them under the rug. It has to be someone really powerful to influence authorities in two countries.” There was also an element of reciprocity with the latest disappearances, as blogger Truong Duy Nhat had been abducted from a Bangkok mall on January 26, Sunai said. He re-emerged in Vietnamese custody, with authorities saying he had been held since January 28. Sunai said the Thai government had been persistent in asking for assistance to track down political exiles, but with ASEAN countries helping it showed “nowhere is safe for these dissidents any more”. The rights group repeatedly asked both the Thai and Vietnamese governments about the three activists who vanished on May 8 only to be told there is “no information”. “They don’t even care to open an investigation. Laos itself says they have never been in Laos.” The threats, Sunai said, are at a “new high”. “It has become more intensified and more deadly. I’ve never seen anything like this myself.” The lack of official response has been consistent. Thailand’s senior Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan, a former army chief who is also defence minister, was asked directly about the whereabouts of the three arrested in Vietnam. The government knew nothing, he said. https://bangkokjack.com/2019/04/17/thailand-north-korean-model/ After the second disappearance, in July 2016, the army chief of the day said he knew only what was on the news. A promised inquiry into the deaths has failed to materialise. Junya Yimprasert, a fugitive from lese-majeste charges who fled Thailand in 2010, has seen exiles leave in waves during 15 years of political unrest. Speaking from Finland, where she is helping campaign for Faiyen to find asylum in a third country, she said there were cases where teenage Facebook page administrators had to flee within hours of being wanted for material posted online. “The Thai media totally censor themselves,” Junya said. “Even the most progressive outlets will be very careful. That is the tragedy of Thailand.” While Junya has adjusted to a new life, she said the consequences of exile were profound. “Many of us have lost contacts, we have to stop contacting our families an we cut relations with close friends,” she said. “And there will be more.”  

Exiled Thai dissident Worravut “Tito” Thueakchaiyaphum fears for his life. CREDIT:WORRAVUT “TITO” THUEAKCHAIYAPHUM   Taking care not to give away his location, Worravut said the band members never travelled alone, rotated a 24-hour guard at their property and had moved frequently over the years. Threats came electronically, as did warnings from friends and family. They had never seen who was after them. Those who did were never heard from again. “Everyone who has been abducted has been found dead or is presumed dead,” Worravut said. “I don’t know how many spies have been monitoring my movements, but when they come it will be the end of me.” - Brisbane Times – You can follow BangkokJack on Instagram, Twitter & Reddit. Or join the free mailing list (top right) Please help us continue to bring the REAL NEWS - PayPal Read the full article

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That New DuckTales Episode

Some thoughts, because I am an old woman (in her late twenties) who refuses to learn that cartoons are for kids: 1. I love the style for this show so much. 2. That seagull looked so happy and cute up there on the mast(?) before the shouting started. 3. Donald Duck is basically an over-protective single dad to his nephews and it's precious. 4. Huey, Dewey, and Louie manage to have more character in a minute than they did in one-hundred episodes of the original show. 5. Vulture capitalists oh my gosh. 6. David Tennant isn't Alan Young, but he's perfect for this version of Scrooge. 7. Launchpad's introduction as Scrooge's chauffeur is great and also HELLO THERE, JIGEN, WHAT ARE YOU AND LUPIN DOING HERE? 8. The gag with Huey messing with the radio to play dramatic music while he and the boys talk Scrooge up was actually pretty funny. 9. Donald is one-million percent done with his uncle, as he should be. 10. "Are you still a trillionaire?" *cue peacock* 11. Having Donald and Scrooge shout at each other all the way through their first meeting was great, even if I had to turn the subtitles on to catch a couple of Donald's lines. 12. "Do children still like marbles?" Aha yes I see what you did there. 13. "HOW OLD ARE YOU?" 14. No, seriously. How old is Scrooge supposed to be in this version? If this series takes place in the 2010's and they're still going to dive into his backstory and have him live through the Klondike Gold Rush, as seems to be the case, then that makes him ancient by any standards. 15. There's some nice, classic Donald Duck physical comedy. 16. And so many call backs to classic Disney shorts, Ducks comics, and the original show that manage to be there but not in an obnoxious fan-servicey way. 17. No Duckworth so far, but Beakley seems to be doing his job. I am okay with this. 18. I, for one, welcome the new Webby. 19. No, I really like the new Webby. I've seen a lot of people comparing her to Mabel from Gravity Falls, but apart from the voice and the grappling hook, they're not really all that similar. In fact, if there's any Gravity Falls character Webby is like given her social awkwardness, desparation for friends, obsessiveness, nerdiness, and interest in strange artifacts of mysterious origin, it's Dipper, or maybe a nine-year old Ford. 20. Jumping off of that last point, this show does give off a little bit of a Gravity Falls vibe. But, to be fair, the old show does, too. No, really. About a year ago I watched a good chunk of the original DuckTales (It's pretty good! Just know that it's obviously written for kids and there are more than a few, well, offensive ethnic stereotypes.) and started to have a bit of an out of body experience when Gravity Falls-like things started happening in the first five episodes. ("We missed ya, Uncle Scrooge!" "Missed me? What did ya throw at me?") This new series also gives off a strong Indiana Jones vibe. But, given that Indiana Jones was partially influenced by the old Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge comics, that's more than welcome. 21. I maaay have paused the episode to stare at Webby's giant McDuck Conspiracy Board. 22. Matilda and Hortense exist! 23. Scrooge is more badass and more of a jerk than he was in the original show. I am more than okay with both of these facts. 24. Everyone's reaction to the headless man-horse. Oh gosh. 25. Scrooge's reaction when Dewey called him out on the "family is nothing but trouble" line was...interesting. Also slightly scary. I sense some feels around the corner. 26. "TO YOUR ROOOOMS!!" 27. Launchpad is, in fact, a pilot. 28. Someone please get Webby a hamburger. 29. Huey's so adorable with his travel bingo and his sea shanty playlist. 30. "I'm wearing a kilt, Mcduck! A KKIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLTTT!!!!" 31. Crack theory about Glomgold: He's not actually Scottish. He's just taking the idea of the Scottish billionaire from Scrooge and making it cheaper and more showy. 32. Good thing Donald was there to save Dewey from the flame throwers since Dewey DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO AVOID THOSE LASERS. 33. Shandra Jimenez is now a duck. Listen to the green duck reporter at the end. It's got to be the same voice actress. 34. Scrooge and Donald bonding. Good. 35. "Mom?" 36. DDDDEEELLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAA!!?? 37. Spear of Selene? Where's Della? Is she dead? Is she on the moon? Is her absence related to the Spear of Selene or not? What did Scrooge and Donald do to each other that they're so angry? Where's Matilda? Where's Webby's parents? I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS oh no I'm INVESTED. 38. Also, the kids' reaction when they found out Scrooge is their great-uncle. That was good.